Scandinavian and Polish MSX machines

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By Manuel

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08-02-2022, 00:35

Do you know if any ROM dump of an original Danish/Norwegian, Swedish/Finnish or even Polish MSX like the SVI-738 has been preserved?
Please speak up if you have one or such an unmodified machine!

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By Manuel

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12-02-2022, 00:46

NYYRIKKI?

By tooloud

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12-02-2022, 21:09

I will ask fellow with SVI

By tooloud

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12-02-2022, 23:03

By Manuel

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12-02-2022, 23:21

I am looking for known good dumps of Scandinavian and/or Polish MSX machines.... These files you mention there are probably international and Spanish, and I have no idea about their status. I am only looking for unmodified original ROM dumps.
But thanks anyway!

By elwro07

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07-01-2023, 20:22

I've dumped 3 original Polish roms from my SVI-738:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VTwiC3nPk0wsPR-o5LWopDwEr55...
They work fine in blueMSX (including the custom Polish keyboard layout this 738 has).

By Manuel

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07-01-2023, 22:06

Thanks! Can you show some pictures of the Polish keyboard?

By Manuel

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08-01-2023, 00:16

As for the Polish machine, here is its character set:

What we need now is to make a table that tells us which unicode character belongs to each of these, very similar to https://github.com/openMSX/openMSX/blob/master/share/unicode...

Are there any Polish people who can identify the characters from the character set?

Very useful sites to do this:
https://www.kreativekorp.com/charset/whereis/
https://www.kreativekorp.com/charset/whatis/
https://www.kreativekorp.com/charset/unicode/

I tried a bit, but I have a hard time identifying the characters properly. I did see some strange things:
- the character 0x0F seems to be the same as 0xBB (latin capital letter z with stroke)
- the character 0x1B seems to be the same as 0xB7 (latin capital letter n with acute)
- the character 0x1C seems to be the same as 0xBE (latin capital letter z with acute)
- the character 0x89 seems to be the same as 0xB9 (latin small letter s with acute)
- the character 0x8A seems to be the same as 0xBD (latin small letter z with acute)
(And there might be more which I didn't find yet.)
Did I see this correctly?

Note that a similar table needs to be made for the Danish/Norwegian character set:

The Swedish/Finnish character set is the same as the international one, so that was rather easy:
(which thus results in the file https://github.com/openMSX/openMSX/blob/master/share/unicode... )

By msxtrd

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08-01-2023, 00:26

PL special signs:

ą Ą
ę Ę
ć Ć
ń Ń
ó Ó
ł Ł
ś Ś
ż Ż
ź Ź

Danish special signs:

æ Æ
ø Ø
å Å

By msxtrd

Champion (277)

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08-01-2023, 00:26

PL special signs:

ą Ą
ę Ę
ć Ć
ń Ń
ó Ó
ł Ł
ś Ś
ż Ż
ź Ź

Danish special signs:

æ Æ
ø Ø
å Å

By msxtrd

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08-01-2023, 00:50

0105 ą LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH OGONEK
0104 Ą LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH OGONEK

0119 ę LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH OGONEK
0118 Ę LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH OGONEK

0107 ć LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH ACUTE
0106 Ć LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH ACUTE

0144 ń LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH ACUTE
0143 Ń LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH ACUTE

00F3 ó LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH ACUTE
00D3 Ó LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH ACUTE

0142 ł LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH STROKE
0141 Ł LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH STROKE

015B ś LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH ACUTE
015A Ś LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH ACUTE

017C ż LATIN SMALL LETTER Z WITH DOT ABOVE
017B Ż LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z WITH DOT ABOVE

017A ź LATIN SMALL LETTER Z WITH ACUTE
0179 Ź LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z WITH ACUTE

--DK

00E6 æ LATIN SMALL LETTER AE
00C6 Æ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AE

00D8 Ø LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE
00F8 ø LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE

00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE
00C5 Å LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE

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