Best MSX2 game ever - finale discussion

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Por ro

Scribe (4530)

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08-07-2003, 00:40

yeah, there's even a website called HARAPPA Smile

check: http://www.harappa.com/har/har0.html for the ruins at the indus

Por Sama

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08-07-2003, 03:25

I, too, can finish Usas without cheating now, but it took me 9 years of trying to achieve that for the first time. Main tricks in stage 5 are indeed having an enemy bounce you back at the top of your (double -- Wit!) jump so you can get even higher, and using Wit instead of Cles. Also don't forget to change your emotion and thus weapon after you opened the door to the boss in ruins 2 and 3.

I always thought Usas was way too easy! The largest part, that is. The game isn't really balanced. The first four stages were a piece of cake, the last one (Mohenjo Daro) was quite hard because of the overkill of spikes (not much of a strategy necessary here - just don't jump wrong (and since this might still be too easy for some players, Konami decided to make the jumps of the characters quite inconsequent)). First tomb was no problem, second tomb was hard only because of the boss monster (eating ground with hardly any ground to eat), fourth tomb was hard only because it took much time before I found out the pitfall that leads you to the boss monster (I always thought this was a bug Smile) and the third tomb, that actually forms the only problem.

Actually this tomb is no problem at all, using the 'have the enemy bounce you to the second floor' trick described above, except for the room before the boss monster's room. It's really, really hard not to get your player killed by the up-and-down going elevator, which has the tendency to press you to death at the ceiling of the platform right to the left of it unless you have a REAL good sense of timing.

Apart from that elevator and platform trick, Usas is quite easy. It's a lot harder to finish Vampire Killer.

By the way, did you know that the right pronunciation of Usas is 'Oesjas' or 'Ushas'? That's why there's that reading mark (how do you call it in English?) written under the first S Smile

Por anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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08-07-2003, 11:36

WTF is wrong with people voting Metal Gear in stead of Aleste 2 or SD-Snatcher?!
I'm getting the idea the less frequent visitors are all Metal Gear addicts or something, because during the first 100 votes Aleste 2 had quite a lead on MG (and was just behind SD-S)... *sigh*

Por snout

Ascended (15184)

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08-07-2003, 11:43

I think all four games have good reasons to vote for

Some pro's and cons a game

Aleste 2 - Awesome game in its genre, although the genre was not renewing anymore (Zanac 4 Tongue)
Metal Gear - The start of a new game genre, although there were still quite some improvements needed (most of them implemented in Metal Gear 2)
SD Snatcher - The most astonishing story ever implemented in an MSX game (or in any computer game??). Awesome music. Gameplay is sometimes a bit slow and it took a long time before the game was available in English (amateur translation). Some graphical effects could have been better (multilayer scroll as seen in Almost Real anyone?? Tongue)
Usas - Ultimate platformer. Hard, but not unbeatable. Some new elements (moods), great music. Highly addictive, yet a little monotonous. And highly frustrating if you're not very good at it (like me Tongue)

Por dlibeert

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08-07-2003, 13:17

..., like in Penguin Adventure where you need to pause the game 5 times (for example) to see the happy ending.

Yeah! What's up with that? How can you get the happy ending? I've once been told that you only get a happy ending if you use the slot machines as little as possible? Is this true?

Por dlibeert

Resident (64)

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08-07-2003, 13:24

Take Salamander for instance, it took me a while to get the hang of the game. But after a while I got so good at it I could finish the game with one live.

Wow, how the hell do you get through Lavinia with just one live? Question

Por Guillian

Prophet (3455)

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08-07-2003, 13:51

>>..., like in Penguin Adventure where you need to pause the game 5 times (for example) to see the happy ending.<<

Yeah! What's up with that? How can you get the happy ending? I've once been told that you only get a happy ending if you use the slot machines as little as possible? Is this true?

You have to press F1 -pause- (4*n)+1 times while playing. I.e: 1,5,9, etc...
Bare in mind that if you continue after game over, pause counter resets.

Por Latok

msx guru (3841)

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08-07-2003, 14:01

I don't see the variable 'n' labeled.....What is 'n'?

Por Guillian

Prophet (3455)

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08-07-2003, 14:13

I don't see the variable 'n' labeled.....What is 'n'?
Tongue
Ok...

n=1 to (((34*PI/34)+34)*34/34+SQR(34))*infinity)

XD

Por Latok

msx guru (3841)

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08-07-2003, 15:04

Nobody takes me seriously Tongue

I really don't know what the 'n' is.....but anyway.....You made your point Tongue

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