Best MSX2 game ever [round 2]

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Por Latok

msx guru (3840)

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19-06-2003, 16:45

Rikusu, that's interesting stuff indeed. Same goes for XAK 3, Tower Of Gazzle. Why XAK3?!?! Because Dutch MSX Magazines made that up.....

XAK3 does exist, yes. But not on the MSX platform. It's just XAK, The Tower Of Gazzle.

Por Gakubuchi

Expert (95)

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19-06-2003, 17:23

2-1; Psycho World - Quinpl
1-2; Final Fantasy - Penguin-kun Wars 2
2-1; Goody - Laydock
1-2; Emerald dragon - Rune Master 1
2-1; Scramble Formation - Akin
2-1; Puyo Puyo - Feedback
2-1; Ganbare Goemon (Samurai) - Rambo Super Special
3-0; Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - Strategic Mars
2-1; Vampire Killer - Bubble Rain
0-3; Fireball - Tower of Cabin
2-1; Sorcerian - Columns
1-2; Star Ship Rendez-Vous - YS 2 (Ancient YS Vanished the Final Chapter)
2-1; YS 3 (Wanderers from YS) - Princess Maker
0-3; Ducktales - King's Valley 2 (Pyramid power)
1-2; Super Tritorn - Higemaru
2-1; La Abadia del Crimen (MSX2 remake) - Bebopbout
0-3; Hydefos - Nyancle Race
1-2; Tetris - Gianna Sisters
2-1; Aleste Gaiden (Aleste Special) - Nosh
3-0; Snatcher - L'affaire
1-2; Xevious - Dragon Slayer 4 (Drasle family)
3-0; Shrines of Enigma - Leprechaun
2-1; SD Snatcher - Androgynus
3-0; Xak 3 (Tower of Gazzel) - Akanbe Dragon
0-3; Ikari Warriors - Metal Gear
3-0; King Kong 2 - War of Death 2
2-1; Rune Master 3 - Pacmania
1-2; Bet Your Life - Dragon Slayer 6 (Legend of heroes)
2-1; Bubble Bobble - Chuka Taisen
2-1; Greatest Driver - Cat 'n Mouse
3-0; Gorby's Pipeline - Eggbert
0-3; Undeadline - Quarth
2-1; Lost World - Vectron
1-2; Arcus 2 - Magnar
2-1; Firebird (Hinotori) - YS 1 (Ancient YS Vanished Omen)
1-2; Sir Dan - Usas
1-2; Pentaro Odyssey - Guru Logic
1-2; Defcon - D.A.S.S.
3-0; Aleste 1 - Hydlide 1
1-2; Pixess - Frantic
1-2; Niko2 - Bomberman 2 (Paragon)
0-3; Ashguine 2 (T&E) - Xak 1
1-2; Famicle Parodic 1 - Blade Lords
2-1; Fighters Ragnarok - Pumpkin Adventure 3
3-0; Golvellius 2 - Ashguine 3 (Micro Cabin)
0-3; Cytron - Space Manbow
2-1; Contra (Gryzor) - Monmon Monster
2-1; War of the Dead - Replican
3-0; Xak 2 - Gal-quest 2
1-2; Daiva - Fantasm Soldier 2 (Valis II)
2-1; Nuts - Not Again!
1-2; Arkanoid 2 (Revenge of Doh) - Aleste 2
2-1; Mr Ghost - Troxx
1-2; Famicle Parodic 2 - Big Strategy 2

Por Maggoo

Paragon (1214)

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19-06-2003, 17:41


...And nobody knows why people keep calling Contra 'Gryzor'? Was there some cracker who didn't know what the game was called and called it 'Gryzor' because this was the name his girlfriend gave to his beloved guinea pig?

I know I read some confusion about this in a MSX Gids quite a while ago, but this was a Dutch magazine, so it wouldn't make much sense if MSX users in other countries would use both names as well..

Well the Original Arcade game was named Gryzor in Europe and in the US, and so was the port on other machines (Amstrad CPC, C64). I guess that explains the faulty translation.

Same happened with Nemesis/Gradius, Vampire Killer / Castelvania. Konami likes to rename their games depending on the region.

Por dhau

Paragon (1570)

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19-06-2003, 18:01

1-2 Psycho World - Quinpl
1-3 Final Fantasy - Penguin-kun Wars 2
2-3 Goody - Laydock
0-0 Emerald dragon - Rune Master 1
1-1 Scramble Formation - Akin
3-0 Puyo Puyo - Feedback
3-0 Ganbare Goemon (Samurai) - Rambo Super Special
3-0 Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - Strategic Mars
3-0 Vampire Killer - Bubble Rain
0-0 Fireball - Tower of Cabin
1-2 Sorcerian - Columns
0-2 Star Ship Rendez-Vous - YS 2 (Ancient YS Vanished the Final Chapter)
2-1 YS 3 (Wanderers from YS) - Princess Maker
1-3 Ducktales - King's Valley 2 (Pyramid power)
0-0 Super Tritorn - Higemaru
1-0 La Abadia del Crimen (MSX2 remake) - Bebopbout
1-2 Hydefos - Nyancle Race
1-0 Tetris - Gianna Sisters
3-0 Aleste Gaiden (Aleste Special) - Nosh
3-0 Snatcher - L'affaire
2-2 Xevious - Dragon Slayer 4 (Drasle family)
0-0 Shrines of Enigma - Leprechaun
3-1 SD Snatcher - Androgynus
3-0 Xak 3 (Tower of Gazzel) - Akanbe Dragon
0-3 Ikari Warriors - Metal Gear
1-0 King Kong 2 - War of Death 2
3-3 Rune Master 3 - Pacmania
0-2 Bet Your Life - Dragon Slayer 6 (Legend of heroes)
3-0 Bubble Bobble - Chuka Taisen
0-1 Greatest Driver - Cat 'n Mouse
3-2 Gorby's Pipeline - Eggbert
1-3 Undeadline - Quarth
0-0 Lost World - Vectron
0-0 Arcus 2 - Magnar
3-2 Firebird (Hinotori) - YS 1 (Ancient YS Vanished Omen)
0-3 Sir Dan - Usas
3-1 Pentaro Odyssey - Guru Logic
0-0 Defcon - D.A.S.S.
3-1 Aleste 1 - Hydlide 1
0-0 Pixess - Frantic
0-0 Niko2 - Bomberman 2 (Paragon)
1-2 Ashguine 2 (T&E) - Xak 1
1-1 Famicle Parodic 1 - Blade Lords
1-0 Fighters Ragnarok - Pumpkin Adventure 3
2-2 Golvellius 2 - Ashguine 3 (Micro Cabin)
0-3 Cytron - Space Manbow
2-0 Contra (Gryzor) - Monmon Monster
0-0 War of the Dead - Replican
2-0 Xak 2 - Gal-quest 2
0-2 Daiva - Fantasm Soldier 2 (Valis II)
0-0 Nuts - Not Again!
3-3 Arkanoid 2 (Revenge of Doh) - Aleste 2
0-0 Mr Ghost - Troxx
2-0 Famicle Parodic 2 - Big Strategy 2

And! Guys! Are you crazy?!? The best ever MSX2 game isn't even mentioned! Breaker by RadarSoft beats crap out of even best of the breed (MG1/2 and KV2)

Por rjp

Master (193)

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19-06-2003, 18:51

2-1; Psycho World - Quinpl
2-1; Final Fantasy - Penguin-kun Wars 2
1-2; Goody - Laydock
2-1; Emerald dragon - Rune Master 1
1-2; Scramble Formation - Akin
2-1; Puyo Puyo - Feedback
2-1; Ganbare Goemon (Samurai) - Rambo Super Special
2-1; Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - Strategic Mars
3-0; Vampire Killer - Bubble Rain
0-3; Fireball - Tower of Cabin
1-2; Sorcerian - Columns
1-2; Star Ship Rendez-Vous - YS 2 (Ancient YS Vanished the Final Chapter)
2-1; YS 3 (Wanderers from YS) - Princess Maker
1-2; Ducktales - King's Valley 2 (Pyramid power)
1-2; Super Tritorn - Higemaru
2-1; La Abadia del Crimen (MSX2 remake) - Bebopbout
2-1; Hydefos - Nyancle Race
2-1; Tetris - Gianna Sisters
3-0; Aleste Gaiden (Aleste Special) - Nosh
3-0; Snatcher - L'affaire
2-1; Xevious - Dragon Slayer 4 (Drasle family)
3-0; Shrines of Enigma - Leprechaun
2-1; SD Snatcher - Androgynus
2-1; Xak 3 (Tower of Gazzel) - Akanbe Dragon
1-2; Ikari Warriors - Metal Gear
3-0; King Kong 2 - War of Death 2
1-2; Rune Master 3 - Pacmania
1-2; Bet Your Life - Dragon Slayer 6 (Legend of heroes)
2-1; Bubble Bobble - Chuka Taisen
2-1; Greatest Driver - Cat 'n Mouse
1-2; Gorby's Pipeline - Eggbert
1-2; Undeadline - Quarth
2-1; Lost World - Vectron
1-2; Arcus 2 - Magnar
2-1; Firebird (Hinotori) - YS 1 (Ancient YS Vanished Omen)
1-2; Sir Dan - Usas
3-0; Pentaro Odyssey - Guru Logic
1-2; Defcon - D.A.S.S.
3-0; Aleste 1 - Hydlide 1
2-1; Pixess - Frantic
1-2; Niko2 - Bomberman 2 (Paragon)
1-2; Ashguine 2 (T&E) - Xak 1
1-2; Famicle Parodic 1 - Blade Lords
1-2; Fighters Ragnarok - Pumpkin Adventure 3
2-1; Golvellius 2 - Ashguine 3 (Micro Cabin)
0-3; Cytron - Space Manbow
2-1; Contra (Gryzor) - Monmon Monster
2-1; War of the Dead - Replican
3-0; Xak 2 - Gal-quest 2
1-2; Daiva - Fantasm Soldier 2 (Valis II)
3-0; Nuts - Not Again!
1-2; Arkanoid 2 (Revenge of Doh) - Aleste 2
2-1; Mr Ghost - Troxx
1-2; Famicle Parodic 2 - Big Strategy 2

Por Grauw

Ascended (10139)

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19-06-2003, 19:01

3-0 Psycho World - Quinpl
1-2 Final Fantasy - Penguin-kun Wars 2
0-3 Goody - Laydock
1-2 Emerald dragon - Rune Master 1
0-3 Scramble Formation - Akin
3-0 Puyo Puyo - Feedback
2-1 Ganbare Goemon (Samurai) - Rambo Super Special
2-1 Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - Strategic Mars
3-0 Vampire Killer - Bubble Rain
0-3 Fireball - Tower of Cabin
0-3 Sorcerian - Columns
0-3 Star Ship Rendez-Vous - YS 2 (Ancient YS Vanished the Final Chapter)
2-1 YS 3 (Wanderers from YS) - Princess Maker
2-1 Ducktales - King's Valley 2 (Pyramid power)
0-3 Super Tritorn - Higemaru
1-2 La Abadia del Crimen (MSX2 remake) - Bebopbout
3-0 Hydefos - Nyancle Race
2-1 Tetris - Gianna Sisters
0-3 Aleste Gaiden (Aleste Special) - Nosh
1-2 Snatcher - L'affaire
1-2 Xevious - Dragon Slayer 4 (Drasle family)
2-1 Shrines of Enigma - Leprechaun
3-0 SD Snatcher - Androgynus
1-2 Xak 3 (Tower of Gazzel) - Akanbe Dragon
0-3 Ikari Warriors - Metal Gear
2-1 King Kong 2 - War of Death 2
3-0 Rune Master 3 - Pacmania
0-3 Bet Your Life - Dragon Slayer 6 (Legend of heroes)
3-0 Bubble Bobble - Chuka Taisen
3-0 Greatest Driver - Cat 'n Mouse
0-3 Gorby's Pipeline - Eggbert
0-3 Undeadline - Quarth
3-0 Lost World - Vectron
0-3 Arcus 2 - Magnar
0-3 Firebird (Hinotori) - YS 1 (Ancient YS Vanished Omen)
0-3 Sir Dan - Usas
3-0 Pentaro Odyssey - Guru Logic
2-1 Defcon - D.A.S.S.
3-0 Aleste 1 - Hydlide 1
0-3 Pixess - Frantic
2-1 Niko2 - Bomberman 2 (Paragon)
0-3 Ashguine 2 (T&E) - Xak 1
2-1 Famicle Parodic 1 - Blade Lords
0-3 Fighters Ragnarok - Pumpkin Adventure 3
2-1 Golvellius 2 - Ashguine 3 (Micro Cabin)
0-3 Cytron - Space Manbow
3-0 Contra (Gryzor) - Monmon Monster
1-2 War of the Dead - Replican
3-0 Xak 2 - Gal-quest 2
2-1 Daiva - Fantasm Soldier 2 (Valis II)
0-3 Nuts - Not Again!
1-2 Arkanoid 2 (Revenge of Doh) - Aleste 2
2-1 Mr Ghost - Troxx
2-1 Famicle Parodic 2 - Big Strategy 2

p.s. I have to agree with dhau. Breaker is awesome.

And Maggoo... Matra is good, but I only saw one of their games in the original list, I think. But even then, they are very impressive and fun to play, but there are games I played a lot lot more. Strategic Mars or Akanbe Dragon would beat any Matra game (yet I'm afraid neither will survive this round). Ahh, it's a tough world, with tough choices to be made Smile.

~Grauw

Por sunrise

Paragon (1091)

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19-06-2003, 19:30

Psycho World - Quinpl 0-3
Final Fantasy - Penguin-kun Wars 2 3-0
Goody - Laydock 0-3
Emerald dragon - Rune Master 1 0-3
Scramble Formation - Akin 0-3
Puyo Puyo - Feedback 0-3
Ganbare Goemon (Samurai) - Rambo Super Special 3-0
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - Strategic Mars 3-0
Vampire Killer - Bubble Rain 2-1
Fireball - Tower of Cabin 0-3
Sorcerian - Columns 3-0
Star Ship Rendez-Vous - YS 2 (Ancient YS Vanished the Final Chapter) 0-3
YS 3 (Wanderers from YS) - Princess Maker 3-0
Ducktales - King's Valley 2 (Pyramid power) easy 0-3
Super Tritorn - Higemaru 0-3
La Abadia del Crimen (MSX2 remake) - Bebopbout 2-1
Hydefos - Nyancle Race 2-1
Tetris - Gianna Sisters 2-1
Aleste Gaiden (Aleste Special) - Nosh 1-2
Snatcher - L'affaire 1-2
Xevious - Dragon Slayer 4 (Drasle family) 1-2
Shrines of Enigma - Leprechaun 3-0
SD Snatcher - Androgynus 3-0
Xak 3 (Tower of Gazzel) - Akanbe Dragon 3-0
Ikari Warriors - Metal Gear 1-2
King Kong 2 - War of Death 2 3-0
Rune Master 3 - Pacmania 3-0
Bet Your Life - Dragon Slayer 6 (Legend of heroes) 0-3
Bubble Bobble - Chuka Taisen 3-0
Greatest Driver - Cat 'n Mouse 0-3
Gorby's Pipeline - Eggbert 1-2
Undeadline - Quarth difficult 1-2
Lost World - Vectron 3-0
Arcus 2 - Magnar 1-2
Firebird (Hinotori) - YS 1 (Ancient YS Vanished Omen) 1-2
Sir Dan - Usas 0-3
Pentaro Odyssey - Guru Logic 1-2
Defcon - D.A.S.S. 2-1
Aleste 1 - Hydlide 1 3-0
Pixess - Frantic 1-2
Niko2 - Bomberman 2 (Paragon) 1-2
Ashguine 2 (T&E) - Xak 1 0-3
Famicle Parodic 1 - Blade Lords snif 2-1
Fighters Ragnarok - Pumpkin Adventure 3 0-3
Golvellius 2 - Ashguine 3 (Micro Cabin) 3-0
Cytron - Space Manbow 0-3
Contra (Gryzor) - Monmon Monster 1-2
War of the Dead - Replican 3-0
Xak 2 - Gal-quest 2 0-3
Daiva - Fantasm Soldier 2 (Valis II) 1-2
Nuts - Not Again! Sorry Ramon 1-2
Arkanoid 2 (Revenge of Doh) - Aleste 2 1-2
Mr Ghost - Troxx 1-2
Famicle Parodic 2 - Big Strategy 2 3-0

Tongue

Por Latok

msx guru (3840)

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19-06-2003, 19:36

Hey dhau, could you please edit your 3-1/1-3 votes and change them into something that adds up to 3 and not to 4? Tongue

Por snout

Ascended (15184)

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19-06-2003, 20:09

Rikusu, that's interesting stuff indeed. Same goes for XAK 3, Tower Of Gazzle. Why XAK3?!?! Because Dutch MSX Magazines made that up.....

XAK3 does exist, yes. But not on the MSX platform. It's just XAK, The Tower Of Gazzle.

interesting: Thanks to us everybody calls the recent MSX Magazine "MSX Magazine 2003" while 2003 isn't even in its title ^_^ Tongue

Por Sama

Ambassador (2061)

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19-06-2003, 20:49

Xak 3 is released for the PC-Engine only, indeed. Its subtitle is 'The Eternal Recurrence'. Although I have an original copy, I don't have a PC-Engine to be able to play the game. Doesn't look as nice as its predecessors, though.

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