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Por sdsnatcher73

Prophet (3538)

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08-06-2022, 21:18

If one’s said there was no public release it means it stayed private. The public for the H model may have been limited (because it was targeted at a limited audience) but if it was sold to broadcast studios then it means it had a public release. Well my 2 cents…

Por T.R.

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08-06-2022, 22:02

An MSX from JVC with built in HD (regardless of whether it's private/limited/prototype) would be quite extraordinary. If there's no hard proof of existence then perhaps this should be mentioned as such in the wiki. I'm still interested to hear about any concrete source of this info. As far as I see, the info about the NMS8260 suggests that JVC was working on it, but this does not prove existence of any hardware other than the NMS8260.

Por zeilemaker54

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08-06-2022, 22:31

I do not know it counts as prove, but the disassembly of the disk driver of the NMS8260 shows the JVC connection and references the HC-90/95 (line 1132).

Por sdsnatcher73

Prophet (3538)

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09-06-2022, 05:17

It’s clear that Victor was working on it and Philips was intrigued by the idea. Whether a final product came of it is unclear. The version in the NMS8260 is clearly a pre-release and would not have made it into a HC-90/95 as it is.

Por mars2000you

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09-06-2022, 14:18

msxholder could have answered to this discussion (personnally, I would have changed the wiki only after his answer)

Por gdx

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10-06-2022, 03:47

mars2000you wrote:

The NMS 8260 page was written before this new info. Besides, it's not contradictory as the H version was not released for the general public. There's also a difference between 2OMB and 4OMB btw.

I think the T version is the last model. H is not mentioned in ads and the catalogs, and same for the HDD interface.

http://d4.princess.ne.jp/diary/20162.html

The T version is already uncommon because it came out around the time of the Turbo R. If the H existed, it must be just a demonstration model.

Por mars2000you

Enlighted (6321)

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10-06-2022, 10:33

@gdx: it has not any sense to separate Micros MSX and Micros ID.

For example, the game Live's Ball was released in 2 parts: part 1 in Micros ID 2, part 2 in Micros MSX 8.

Only 1 cassette and 1 disk are entirely related to Micros ID (with the exception of part 2 of Live's Ball!), and the concerned games/utilities of Micros ID 1 + 2 are mentioned in Micros MSX 7 as result of a contesst organised by Micros MSX.

The games of Micros ID3 are on the same cassette or disk than those published in Micros MSX 8 + 9.

Por gdx

Enlighted (5708)

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10-06-2022, 10:34

For me, it's a separate magazine, but it's true that they have done a bit anything. No wonder this/these magazine(s) didn't last long, but It's a bit messy to mix them up.

Por mars2000you

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10-06-2022, 10:37

The mess comes from the Micros MSX team: see the example of Live's Ball. Besides, all MSX listings of Micros ID are the result of contests organised by Micros MSX.

Por T.R.

Resident (45)

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10-06-2022, 21:19

Quote:

msxholder could have answered to this discussion (personnally, I would have changed the wiki only after his answer)

I searched quite thoroughly and did not find any evidence whatsoever, apart from an anonymous mention in Japanese on twitter about the "HC-95(H) for cable tv" (not sure what "for cable tv" actually means). So as far as I can see it's pure hearsay and not verified. Should the wiki not contain reliable information? Note that I did not remove the information about the claimed existence of the HC-95(H).

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