i got a idea about mrc

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Por Meits

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02-03-2004, 19:19

I wouldn't mind hosting such a site for MSXers:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~jelle77/koppen/

Por DarQ

Paragon (1038)

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02-03-2004, 19:23

to get rid of most problems:
- do not use user-url's for pictures
- let user upload the picture to a temp dir
- admins/mods whatever must check the pictures that came in the last period (a week)

what remains is a slight increase of time needed to maintain the site. but face it, after existing users uploaded a picture, the uploads will decrease a lot so less pics to check for mods/admins. This picture checking is not very time consuming when its about 1 pic. all u need is a little php script that displays the incoming pics that await confirmation.2 buttons, one for confirm and one to deny. a normal human can identify a picture within .5 seconds..

so whats the big deal about a big time consuming bussines?? u need a little upload-script that checks pics for size, extension etc. not a big deal. modifing exising scripts, to display pics, are quite simple for the person who wrote them.

the biggest time consuming work is checking all the pics that existing users will upload just after the feature has been installed.

oh, and about traffic. pics don't have to be that big and there is proxy/clientside cache.

come on snout! let the ugly show themselves.

EDIT: typo's

Por flyguille

Prophet (3028)

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02-03-2004, 20:51

YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHH

I LIKE THIS GUY Wink!!!!!!!!!!!!

WELL TOLD DarQ

Por BiFi

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02-03-2004, 21:32

It will still add work to the admins'/webmasters'/moderators' task lists.

And about the traffic: you don't have to pay for the extra traffic. The foundation does. If people would want such an option they should at least donate to cover traffic expenses... Unless everybody hosts their own picture of course... Any changes in the URL should be then submitted again... adding extra workload to the admins'/webmasters'/moderators' task lists...

In very short... I think it's better to add more useful functionality to the MRC than something like this.

Por DarQ

Paragon (1038)

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02-03-2004, 21:58

Unless everybody hosts their own picture of course... Any changes in the URL should be then submitted again... adding extra workload to the admins'/webmasters'/moderators' task lists...

In very short... I think it's better to add more useful functionality to the MRC than something like this.

nono, working with pics on other servers is quite dumb. as said before by others, i can easily change the picture with the same url. what? i can even convert it to a certain bmp that let's every IE crash! pics must be hosted here if the job has to be done well.

your last point, i agree with. i really don't care about user icons etc. but feeling that its better to have more usefull functionallity does not say it's a bad thing to do.

so far i have not seen any useful statements against it except the slight increase of traffic.

Por snout

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02-03-2004, 22:13

your last point, i agree with. i really don't care about user icons etc. but feeling that its better to have more usefull functionallity does not say it's a bad thing to do.Which means the idea will be taken into consideration, but not implemented in the near future. If you have any pro's or cons why we should or should not do this: please do continue the discussion Smile

Por anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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03-03-2004, 00:10

i can even convert it to a certain bmp that let's every IE crash!
That'll teach people to use such a dangerous and buggy program.

so far i have not seen any useful statements against it except the slight increase of traffic.
'slight' is an understatement. Depending on caches will come back to haunt you...

Por IC

Hero (557)

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03-03-2004, 00:34

When I was creating a forum kind of program I got the same problem on the traffic issue.

First we created a list of parameters that defines the picture 'standards'. One of them is the image size, what kind of extentions (gif/ jpg/ bmp) and ofcourse the compression rate.

To reduce traffic for the pictures is an easy issue.. The smaller the picture, the less traffic... For the site we created (i won't mention the name cauz its really of topic) the pictures are defined as 128*128. Extension is GIF (64 Bit) and Jpeg (Web compliance) because of the compression rate.

So far we have lots of users, but no problems on the trafic issue.. Caus we pay on bandwith, and not by number of bytes.. Harhar

So.. I am in favor of the picture idea.. But if the admin says no... I can live with it...

Por flyguille

Prophet (3028)

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03-03-2004, 04:21

ofcourse....

anyway, if i want, I can post a forum , calling to all user to post his photo in IMG-LINK format....

RESULT:

ADMINS need work and moderate in same way that.... AND include generate MORE work, because need visit several times for see if are one new link and visit all links for see if the picture not are changed.

BY THAT REASON I NOT DO THAT.

On a pre-moderated and close picture wall , that can't needed

ABOUT traffic.... well one 20K picture is enought, and that is not more than a HTML file

Ofcourse paging the wall each 20 or 40 pictures for aboid increasing the traffic
and order in aphanumeric for jump directly to the page that user are interesting to see..to made more low the traffic.

anyway are all simply idea....

letme say , how i see the MRC....only the truth

First, MRC made possible to enjoit at WORLD level, the MSX community

at the beggining, i got the problem of the language wall, but i was learning very much... and that helpme, not only on the MRC, too on my bussines and my life

Second, MRC is not about MSX hardware or software, is about "WE", because "WE" maintain the MSX alive, the topic is secondary. Anyway MSX got several years of my life. and I are very happy programming MSX.

The important thing, are "WE" enjoy a friend's community

I hope! at some time we can meet all and to be taken out a picture.... And to say... HERE WE ALL ARE!!!!!....

But meanwhile I consider good idea that of the wall of pictures.

anyway.... I LOVE MRC AND MSX AND MSX COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Por BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

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03-03-2004, 07:55

nono, working with pics on other servers is quite dumb. as said before by others, i can easily change the picture with the same url. what? i can even convert it to a certain bmp that let's every IE crash! pics must be hosted here if the job has to be done well.Hmm... True. We already seen it's possible for people to register and spam the MRC with aboslutely non-related posts. Makes me a bit curious how to make such a crashable BMP though. If you want to explain, please do it in private. I wouldn't use this info online anyway, since I don't want to be seen as the bad guy in the community. I have added too much already to even want it to change that image.

your last point, i agree with. i really don't care about user icons etc. but feeling that its better to have more usefull functionallity does not say it's a bad thing to do.I don't see the added value for people to have their (real) faces online here except for being recognized on fairs and meetings.

so far i have not seen any useful statements against it except the slight increase of traffic.If you want to implemented in time, it's your choice... Maybe it's useful to add a toggle (with optional upload) to the My Account option then...

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