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Van wolf_

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01-07-2008, 19:44

msxisland: you're not exactly the only one with an online archive of MSX warez. If your site would go down, no-one would have any problem finding their goods. Funet has long gone, but was replaced with another archive quite a while ago already.

Besides, as for the companies you mentioned, I wouldn't count on it that they won't care anymore. In any case: no links here plz!

Van LeoM

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02-07-2008, 21:34

@msxisland: THANK YOU !!!

Van ro

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03-07-2008, 07:56

[edit]double clicking a button still sucks... (onclick, disable submit button.... right, snout?)

Van ro

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03-07-2008, 07:56

right, and we're all saints eh?

Van cax

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03-07-2008, 17:46

nobody is saint, but why existence and well-being of MRC should be compromised with things that can be easily found elsewhere ?

Van JohnHassink

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03-07-2008, 19:40

Besides, as for the companies you mentioned, I wouldn't count on it that they won't care anymore.
Please don't mistake this as a plea for links to 'warez' on MRC, because this is not intended to be so, but:

Would there be any way to find that out?

One one hand, one might argue:

"If they care so much about their products, artistic rights, trademarks etcetera, then why don't they release remakes on newer systems, no 'cameos' for known player or NPC characters, is there not even one reference to those on developers' websites, and so on..."

While you could safely state that:

"Games / concepts / sagas like Ys, Xak, Metal Gear are still being commercially distributed by their respective owners so they WILL care about piracy concerning old versions..."

As I'm -admittedly- a total commercial nitwit, I just wonder, hey, they made their profit back then, sold a lot of copies, what's there to gain for them now?

Do you see what I mean?

I wish to emphasize that I do understand the policy around here.

Van Sama

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03-07-2008, 20:06

It's a great non-argument to say that the original developers wouldn't care anymore or anything like that. As soon as there is something that makes clear the developers DO still care, e.g. re-releases through services like WOOMB and EGG, many people start crying that they suck because they're in it for the money.

Face it, the only thing is that MSX users are not saints, but humans: they just don't want to pay if they don't have to. There's no moral issue involved in this. And as far as there is, I think the copyrights are very proper: they give the creator the right to decide what to do with his or her creation. How unfair is that?

Van JohnHassink

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03-07-2008, 21:57

So for a renowned developer, any possible legal action could stem from 2 concepts?

* Protection of creation/artistry itself (don't make a crappy pr0n version of Street Fighter without official permission)

* Protection of missed profits for your work (don't copy/distribute original games, nor should you earn money with that or given home-made SF pr0n)

Van Sama

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03-07-2008, 22:14

Those two are both possible, indeed.

Well, you are a musician, you should be able to imagine how you feel when you have made some great songs with your band, so great that people are willing to pay for CD's or concerts, but at some point in time some other dudes decide they like your music as well and start playing it - for free. Wouldn't you be pissed? Smile

Van wolf_

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03-07-2008, 22:20

One can talk long and short about copyrights, intentions of Japanese softwarehouses, Woomb, Egg, D4, whatever..

..it all comes down to 4 simple words: "no warezlinks on MRC"

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