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Van sunrise

Paragon (1091)

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12-04-2003, 21:47

Well you still do not understand. I am glad I can at least i caN admit that something fails.
And donot forget it would have been our pride if it has been accepted.
After eight years, someone comes along and said how is wios, Why not 8 years ago , seven, six or one . You have to put once a line and say lost effort.
That is opposite to Uzix that has earned its credits and deserves more as well as Internestor suite.

Van anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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12-04-2003, 23:08

8 years of development? If that was really the case, we should've heard more about it!
I remember only hearing about in the first year or so... I remember Bjorn Lammers, programmer at TNI at that time, being contacted for WiOS development. He showed interest, and nothing was heard since...

Also the user requirements (turboR+Gfx9000) of WiOS are far too large to expect any number of external developers to contribute the non-finished project. For example, at that time we were working on a Gfx9000 game. Games would work badly under WiOS and writing applications is a hugely different thing.

I think Adriano is taking the good approach with UZIX. He wrote an OS, put in the time to make it as compatible as possible (different IDE/SCSI interface support etc) and wrote some really unique applications for it. Now, if only some good english programming documentation would exist, I'm sure the support will follow. Why? Because it already does something, the advantages are clear, and the system requirements are fairly low.

WiOS could have been good, but it needed better support and more exposure(!) from its creator.

Van sunrise

Paragon (1091)

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12-04-2003, 23:55

I fully agree as it regards the last sentence. Personally I never understood Wios but Peter Burkhard always give high up of Mi-chi's programming skills.
So, if had had noticed that people were approached and getting no response from him then he should know that. He comes to Tilburg so ...
It would be better if I had made that 8 years cursive. Because I meant no support from him. I hope indeed that support for UZIX will grow even as Internetsor suite.
As regards the product of Nestor I can say that we spoke in spain already with Nestor.
He promised to make changements as soon as our Ethernetcard is ready. Erm I can also not wait ....
So if someone has the emailaddress of Adriano. Well let see if we can make also in Brazil better contacts

Van BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

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13-04-2003, 12:58

I don't think there are many people coding C on MSX. IMHO it's better to make any GUI or OS in assembly, or at least give it good enough assembly support. That's why I think WiOS didn't get off the ground that well as many people would have wanted.

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13-04-2003, 22:56

WiOS was made in C?! WHOAAAAA! I never knew that ^^;

Van sjoerd

Hero (602)

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14-04-2003, 14:05

I think the combination of needing a Turbo R, GFX9000 and Ascii MSX-C to develop something for Wios was a but too much to ask.
And I guess it's better to concentrate on multiprogramming than on multitasking on an MSX.

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incognito ergo sum (116)

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14-04-2003, 19:12

wtf is multiprogramming? ^^;

Van snout

Ascended (15184)

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14-04-2003, 19:15

2 programmers on one computer? Tongue

Van sjoerd

Hero (602)

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15-04-2003, 11:40

Multiprogramming: coding on more than one project, to make sure none will ever be finished. Most MSX programmers do it. It's great. I do it a lot. Smile

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Paragon (1326)

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15-04-2003, 14:45

>>>>>>
There is a great difference between uzix -development and Wios -development
I stated that 8 years ago he started. So, people have had 8 years to show support.
Uzix is from a more recent date and is a complete program. Wios doesnot ,it needs separate programs to work with and makes it thus depended on more persons for support.
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uzix only a program? I think that uzix is a big colection of program, and need a lot of new program for could be a really usefull and extended OS for msx, and in the beginning of developping uzix nobody write code for it, when peeople saw that uzix was a great project and offered adventages for msx some people write something, but not a lot of it.

WIOS could had been on this way if the project had been continued, at least I think so.

Please, go to
www.cpmclub.de/zeitung/seite5.htm for example.
So... if Uzix is Uzi for MSX... You have a large collection of programs... already done. Like having a lot of developpers. :evil:

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