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Paladin (1004)

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10-04-2003, 09:01

Hi! Can you please tell me about MSX View? What it does? Do you use it? And for what? Does it need special hardware to work?

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10-04-2003, 14:51

MSX View is a built-in software package in turboR GT computers, also available separately. If you're not Japanese, it isn't of much use. If you are, you have a windows-a-like environment, containing a word processor, a program to paint pictures etc.

There is an english version of MSX View though.

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10-04-2003, 16:41

It's not just an environment, you can also program your own applications for it. It's just like a normal OS.
However, for some reason GUIs never really took off on MSX even though some very good attempts were made.

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12-04-2003, 01:58

I quite liked the plain&simple design of Meusesoft's HDMENU. It could be improved a lot, but it had the 'speed' you'd want in a 'GUI'

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12-04-2003, 02:52

It's not just an environment, you can also program your own applications for it. It's just like a normal OS.
However, for some reason GUIs never really took off on MSX even though some very good attempts were made.

What very good attempts were made? (easy?, wios?, ???)
I think a msx just isn't fast enough and doesn't have enough memory to make a gui-based os workable. There are not enough benefits to use a gui on msx.

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12-04-2003, 11:17

What very good attempts were made? (easy?, wios?, ???)
I think a msx just isn't fast enough and doesn't have enough memory to make a gui-based os workable. There are not enough benefits to use a gui on msx.

I think WIOS is really a good GUI operating system (though I haven't tried it at all). The advantage of high resolution of GFX9000 and the speed of TR will make it acceptable in term of graphics and speed.
I think that Mi-Chi (the developer of WIOS) is already abondoned it, but, still, it is some thing I really wanted to see on MSX.

Any body knows about the state of development of WIOS?

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12-04-2003, 12:06

I can state here that WIOS never will be finished. Mi-chi is someone who said to us I stop cause NOBODY SUPPORTS my work. NOBODY WRITES software for it.
Besides all this, MI-chi is himself also working- well let we say- about 8 years on something that is so slow. But I stated it earlier ,software in general is something that is forgotten and that if there are concrete proposals (see the ide-section) you see that reations ( just one of JP-Grobler) take care of improvements every person points to Jon de Schrijder to do it and remarks as can it be ready yesterday. The software makers must be reunited otherwise as BIFI stated earlier zippo ...

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12-04-2003, 13:49

I can state here that WIOS never will be finished. Mi-chi is someone who said to us I stop cause NOBODY SUPPORTS my work. NOBODY WRITES software for it.

I think that it is not a good reason for stopping on developing soft, if Adriano would think so we never could connect to intenet with uzix.

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12-04-2003, 14:06

>>I can state here that WIOS never will be finished. Mi-chi is someone who said to us I stop cause NOBODY SUPPORTS my work. NOBODY WRITES software for it.
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I think that it is not a good reason for stopping on developing soft, if Adriano would think so we never could connect to intenet with uzix.

There is a great difference between uzix -development and Wios -development
I stated that 8 years ago he started. So, people have had 8 years to show support.
Uzix is from a more recent date and is a complete program. Wios doesnot ,it needs separate programs to work with and makes it thus depended on more persons for support.

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12-04-2003, 16:29

...however developers are not likely to develop software for a platform that is still under development and subject to change. The internestor suite is another example of a perfect base for Internetting on the MSX, but no support from other developers as of yet.

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12-04-2003, 19:03

>>>>
There is a great difference between uzix -development and Wios -development
I stated that 8 years ago he started. So, people have had 8 years to show support.
Uzix is from a more recent date and is a complete program. Wios doesnot ,it needs separate programs to work with and makes it thus depended on more persons for support.

uzix only a program? I think that uzix is a big colection of program, and need a lot of new program for could be a really usefull and extended OS for msx, and in the beginning of developping uzix nobody write code for it, when peeople saw that uzix was a great project and offered adventages for msx some people write something, but not a lot of it.

WIOS could had been on this way if the project had been continued, at least I think so.

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