Did you know..? (MSX trivia!)

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Van ren

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06-10-2019, 14:53

Did you know... Gradius took inspiration from Scooter Shooter, a 1985 Konami arcade game? https://youtu.be/1duS65ADXbI (e.g. @ 9:15)

(Looking at the release dates: big chance that game & Gradius AC were (partly) developed in tandem. (So the inspiration might have been vice-versa there :))

Van Pentarou

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06-10-2019, 21:22

The only things the two games have in common are the manufacturer and the year of release, ANY other aspect:
Monitor orientation(Hori for Gradius, Vert for SS), style of play (single player for Gradius competitive versus for SS) and especially the hardware involved are very different.

Van Sandy Brand

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06-10-2019, 23:00

I must say I don't see much similarities either. A sprite here and there looks somewhat familiar, and I think I might have recognized a bit of Gradius 'vibe' in one of the songs, but that's it.

If anything, it seems to be much closer to [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joust_(video_game)]Joust[/url] in terms of gameplay? Smile

Van NYYRIKKI

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07-10-2019, 02:36

Yeah, ok... The music is same as in Gradius bonus stage and there are little things like sprites... or the stop before end boss that feels a bit like volcano eruption in Gradius 1st stage... It clearly looks & sounds like Konami, but the similarities in general are not as clear as when I ie. compare Thunder Cross 2 to Space Manbow.

Van ren

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07-10-2019, 20:46

Yes, I was primarily trying to point at the Extra Stage theme from Gradius MSX (the elephant in the room?) (which has also been used in the Sharp X1 version & later in Gradius ReBirth).
Some sprites/enemies are similar indeed: the bouncing pods & the hor. axis revolving fighters.
I read someone claiming some of the scenery was reused in (later) Gradius games, and mentioning the similarities in the shield / force-field concept.

Considering it's a title most people probably haven't ever heard of, somewhat of an oddity, I thought it was interesting enough to bring to attention.

I read Konami's plans were originally to port / create some version of Thunder Cross (the first game) to/for MSX, but that it diverged into what we know now as Space Manbow. Some similarities spotted there as well.

Van Sandy Brand

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07-10-2019, 21:42

Oh wow! One can only dream of what an MSX version of Thunder Cross might have been Smile

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