MSXdev'14 #4 - Uridium | MSX Resource Center

Ascended (18879)

15-06-2014, 16:26

Hmm, it only shows a completely garbled screen on the Boosetd MSX2 EN configuration in openMSX. But on 'normal' machines it works fine. Nice game! But... how do you land?

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

15-06-2014, 16:34

Just get landing alert and find last runway at the right end of the map
move slowly left to right over the runway

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

15-06-2014, 16:39

Anyway what is plugged in that boosted configuration ?
The rom has been tested on a whide range of real hw of all msx generations

Van BokanoiD

Rookie (27)

15-06-2014, 22:37

I get the same garbled stuff on OpenMSX, changed machine to a Canon V20 (whatever machine probably, I just happen to own two) and the game works fine. VERY impressive and very polished. This is commercial-release quality stuff. Well done!

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

15-06-2014, 22:41

Which machine was you emulating when you had the same garbled stuff ?

Van BokanoiD

Rookie (27)

15-06-2014, 22:44

The same one Manuel was using; Boosted MSX2 EN

Van BokanoiD

Rookie (27)

15-06-2014, 22:46

On OpenMSX 0.10.1 if that helps.

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

15-06-2014, 22:51

Boosted MSX2+ JP works but not Boosted MSX2 EN...
Investigating.

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

15-06-2014, 23:13

Bug found: it was a missing DI and a lot of luck (for the other working configurations)
Going to update the package very soon.

Van max_iwamoto

Hero (600)

15-06-2014, 23:29

I think we looking at the winner of this edition of MSXDEV.

Van anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

16-06-2014, 06:41

I don't know if you tend to do this when you check out a new MSXdev entry, but I implore you to take a look at the manual as well.

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

16-06-2014, 07:54

Bug fixed and file updated. Boosted MSX2 EN should work now.

Van Lazzeri

Champion (272)

16-06-2014, 17:35

Having trouble running on a real MSX2+ (Panasonic WSX 512kb).

Using EXECROM I keep getting the message "Wrong file type", no matter what I try.

How do you guys run it? Flashrom? Any specific ROM Loader?

Thanks!

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

16-06-2014, 18:27

odo is fine, any flashrom using linear 48K/64K is fine

http://www.msx.org/downloads/utilities/rom/odo-03

IIRC EXECROM doesn't like 48K linear roms

Van Manuel

Ascended (18879)

16-06-2014, 22:02

The manual of this entry is kind of .... unusual Thanks for fixing the bug, ARTRAG!

Van sd_snatcher

Prophet (3517)

16-06-2014, 23:45

ARTRAG,

The new version fixed the boot problem on the Victor HC-95A, but it still freezes on a Sony HB-F500P.

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-06-2014, 07:32

Is HB-F500P the machine with a strange subslot structure ?
The bug could be something different this time.
What was peculiar for this model ?

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-06-2014, 08:39

The bug with the HB-F500P now is solved, updated files on the way.
(what a crappy machine !! )
Please report if I've screwed the rom with other msx models.

Van journey

Hero (555)

17-06-2014, 13:20

Ciao Arturo,

I've tried the ODO loader (like your suggestion) with my OCM but, unfortunately, hangs after the title screen (both URDIUM48.rom URDIUM3c.rom)
Can you help me?

NB:
I've already pre-ordered the cartridge version from Eric

Gianluca

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-06-2014, 14:54

Hi journey/Gianluca
do you have any chance to test the rom using a flash cartridge? Ocm is not emulated, so I have no possibility to see what is going wrong (nor I own one of them)

Van journey

Hero (555)

17-06-2014, 15:41

Ok, I'll try tonight with my flash cart.
I'll let you know!

Gianluca

Van journey

Hero (555)

17-06-2014, 20:06

This is my test with OCM, Turbo-R ST, MegaFalshRom SCC+

URDIUM3c.rom
OCM: hang after title screen
TR: OK

URDIUM48.rom
OCM: hang after title screen
TR: OK

Gianluca

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-06-2014, 21:25

Are you using latest build with the ocm?
Have you tried to boot pressing shift (i.e. excluding disks) ?

Van sd_snatcher

Prophet (3517)

17-06-2014, 22:41

@ARTRAG

Thanks! You're great!

Quote:

(what a crappy machine !! )

Indeed it has quite an awkward slot layout, but for sure it's beautiful!

And one of the very few MSX models with 3 slot connectors. And all of them primary! You can have up to 12 external slots using expanders on this beauty. ;)

@journey
Try to start it with F5 instead of SPACE.

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-06-2014, 23:15

nice case, but in order to initialise the video to screen 2 its bios does a full bunch of inter slot calls...
@journey on ocm, do you get an hang or garbage on the screen?
In case of hang, try to boot with shift.
In case of garbage, start the game with f5 (but it should be impossible as the ocm emulates the TMS, not the Toshiba vdp)

Van sd_snatcher

Prophet (3517)

17-06-2014, 23:15

Quote:

Please report if I've screwed the rom with other msx models.

To help, I just tested Uridium in the known troublemakers. These are the results:

C-BIOS_MSX1 : Ok
Sharp Hotbit 1.2 : Ok
Sony HB-F500P : Ok
Victor HC-95A : Ok
NEOS MA-20/National FS-1300 : Nope

BTW, Uridium now passes the Acid1Test-slots! Congratulations!

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-06-2014, 23:34

National FS-1300 on openmsx works fine. What do you get with it?
Wasn't the NEOS MA-20 an msx 2 adapter O_o ?
I hope you are kidding in reporting this problem... just unplug that crap and plug the cart directly.

About acid test, sorry to disappoint you, but it is just a accident.
Let me direct: for a standard dead about 20 years ago, it is one of the dullest things on the heart.
But it is the usual religion war, so, believe what you like I'll do the same as well.

Van sd_snatcher

Prophet (3517)

18-06-2014, 00:58

No hard feelings. I'm here for the good friends, not to fight any religious wars.

I just tested the game in my usual test set, that's all.

About the AcidTest, it may have been an accident, but it was nice to see it running perfectly there anyway.

Good luck in the context, the game is awesome! Congrats!

Van journey

Hero (555)

18-06-2014, 06:42

SONY HB-F500P my first MSX2!

ARTRAG wrote:

Are you using latest build with the ocm?
Have you tried to boot pressing shift (i.e. excluding disks) ?

I've tried to boot the game with SHIFT pressed but no luck
my OCM is not yet updated...
will be updated soon..

ARTRAG wrote:

nice case, but in order to initialise the video to screen 2 its bios does a full bunch of inter slot calls...
@journey on ocm, do you get an hang or garbage on the screen?
In case of hang, try to boot with shift.
In case of garbage, start the game with f5 (but it should be impossible as the ocm emulates the TMS, not the Toshiba vdp)

After pressed space key, i see the big ship freezed on the screen. No garbage

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

18-06-2014, 08:01

I will try to investigate if some missing DI/EI and the totally different timings of the ocm are causing such a problem
It is hard without being able to test on the real thing

Van journey

Hero (555)

18-06-2014, 19:53

OCM updated to firmware 3.2.1
Now the game work!
Only one little problem: sometimes the screen flickers (score, logo, enemies)

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

18-06-2014, 21:58

The sole sprites that should flicker are those in the active game window.
It should happen only when you fill the SAT completely or when you have 5 or more sprites per line.
The score bar should never flicker.
It could be due to differences in timings between OCM and normal MSX, does the glitch happen at "easy" speed ?

Van Maggoo

Paragon (1216)

03-07-2014, 16:36

Just played the latest version and I must say it's brilliant and a breakthrough in many aspects for me. One, as a technical achievement, no doubt, but also because for the first time (thanks to the Easy mode being included), I can actually "play" Uridium, which to me was a big no no on the other computers due to the ridiculous difficulty and controls ! Thanks Artrag and the team for addressing this and I'm looking forward for the cartridge release.

BTW, may I suggest to allow selecting the difficulty level with the joystick/direction keypad? That would allow playing the game without the keyboard involvement at all

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

04-07-2014, 08:17

Sorry, as I was going to withdraw the entry from msxdev, hardly I will update it.
Anyway the cart game will have a proper menu for options navigable by joystick.

Van sd_snatcher

Prophet (3517)

17-07-2014, 03:11

@ARTRAG

The Toshiba VDPs operate at a clock of 21MHz, just like the MSX2 VDP. Have you tried to push data quicker to see if it also can couple with the same VRAM bandwidth as the V9938?

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

17-07-2014, 07:25

No, but this extra bandwidth would be very hard to be used in a real application

Van Grauw

Ascended (10605)

17-07-2014, 10:50

sd_snatcher wrote:

The Toshiba VDPs operate at a clock of 21MHz, just like the MSX2 VDP. Have you tried to push data quicker to see if it also can couple with the same VRAM bandwidth as the V9938?

That’s worth confirming, if someone feels the inclination to…

Van ARTRAG

Enlighted (6846)

18-07-2014, 19:54

Opening to other platforms leads to very productive results.
Something is sprouting...

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/227705-light-year-demo/

Van tfh

Prophet (3207)

05-02-2017, 20:59

Also added this game to my site (upon request):

http://www.file-hunter.com/MSX/Uridium48.html

If anyone else would like to have their game(s) added, please feel free to let me know :)

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