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Door Tanni

Hero (556)

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22-08-2005, 17:28

The topic ''for sale msx yamaha en msx2 philips mns 8280'' got locked because of insulting postings.

Here are two links to websites explaining why electronical stuff can get defective sooner or later.

This may be due to electromigration, see here: www.csl.mete.metu.edu.tr/Electromigration/emig.htm and here: www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/mw1_ge/kap_a/backbone/ra_5_1.html.

The second link points to a german website, but the picture provided there is better to comprehend the mechanism.

Every existing MSX computer is at least over ten years old and maybe used frequently within its lifetime. Nowadays, the one who's going to buy such stuff must face that it will go defective after a short period of time. I also don't understand why there's such kind of insulting posting because of the computers bought got defective. Everything will go defective sooner or later, and everybody knows it.

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Prophet (3736)

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22-08-2005, 17:43

I don't have the statistics about how many years or thousands of hours any particular kind of MSX machine can work until it breaks, but I know that most of PC machines I had in last decade finally broke or required replacement of major parts in it.

And as you know, many of us still use old MSX machines - for example, my own Yamaha MSX2 was produced in 1986 and has no problems so far.

I have the feeling that most retro computers will outlive modern computers.

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Hero (556)

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22-08-2005, 17:50

And as you know, many of us still use old MSX machines - for example, my own Yamaha MSX2 was produced in 1986 and has no problems so far.
Yes, I know! But it depends on how long you used it and how often you switched it on and off. Termical stress can also cause it to go defective.

I have the feeling that most retro computers will outlive modern computers.
Yes, I agree!

Van cax

Prophet (3736)

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22-08-2005, 17:55

But it depends on how long you used it and how often you switched it on and off. Termical stress can also cause it to go defective.

Maybe you are right and I am using and switching on/off my PCs much more than MSX machine; but it also can be because PCs have more components and circuits that can break, or because the overall quality of modern electronics is not as good as it was in the past.

Van Konamito

Paragon (1037)

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22-08-2005, 17:57

I´m very desapointted about what happened in the Forums Sad

Van flyguille

Prophet (3028)

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22-08-2005, 18:41

wherE?

Van viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

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22-08-2005, 19:28

I have a Sony HB-10P working nice since 1986 and still kickin' Wink

Van viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

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22-08-2005, 19:30

Hey, my post no. 200! Big smile

** huge offtopic but I can't resist pointin' it! **

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Champion (332)

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22-08-2005, 20:45

Congratulations viejo, now up to 1000Tongue

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Champion (332)

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22-08-2005, 20:50

Ontopic: I bought in 1988 a NMS8245 in a computer store in 's-Hertogenbosch(holland)...when I came home the diskdrive didn't work properly...back to the store...they said they fixed it....I came home...damn, again the same problem....after 5 times I wanted a new computer....they didn't give a new one, finally they put a new drive into the msx and it never broke again! (and I was never gone back to that store)Crazy

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Prophet (3736)

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22-08-2005, 21:42

We all know that diskdrives are error-prone, but what's about other MSX components ?

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