The day's dumb question (disk drives)

Door Delorean

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21-04-2005, 19:04

I tried to search it and aren't capable to found it...

¿The MSX floppy format is the same 720Kb of ms-dos? I mean, i can get a DD floppy, kick it into my ms-dos laptop, copy a bunch of files and read them in a msx?

Sorry for the rude question, but i am VERY newbie with msx floppies, i waiting to get my turbo-r and i don´t know that flppy details...

Greetings Smile

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Van mth

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21-04-2005, 19:11

Short answer: yes.

Somewhat longer answer: it is best to format your floppy on MSX, so it will have an MSX boot sector. If you have a floppy with a PC boot sector, reading files on MSX works fine, but if you leave the floppy inserted when you reset the MSX, it will hang when trying to boot from the floppy.

Van Delorean

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21-04-2005, 19:25

This mean i can format a disk with the /s parameter (make a boot disk) and fill the empty space with software downloaded from here in my PC and use in in the MSX?

¡Great!

Last question, supossing my new beast comes w/out boot disk i can make the first one from my PC? (i would use my old laptop again because 720K disks and win XP won't mix...)

Van Manuel

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21-04-2005, 19:36

just format any disk on your MSX and then write software on it (in the form of separate files or as a disk image) with your PC.

You don't need a disk to boot your MSX.

Van mars2000you

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21-04-2005, 19:41

This tool should be very useful for you : DiskManager

You can find it on the site of the emulator RuMSX :

http://members.eunet.at/lexlechz/

It can create MSX disk images, but also apply the MSX format on real disks and transfer data of disk images to real disks

Don't forget to hide the right hole with a tape (that's required otherwhise Win will detect a 1.440 Kb disk) if you use disks formatted for PC

Van Manuel

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21-04-2005, 20:25

Still: bettef format it on your real MSX first, as it will imporove its performance a lot Smile (Due to interleaving stuff...)

Van Delorean

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22-04-2005, 17:20

Yes, ok, but supose i got a turbo-r with floppy drive and none msx-dos boot disk, and i want to boot from msx-dos, ¿How i do a boot disk with my PC? (because a PC formatted floppy may hang the MSX and i cannot format from MSX w/out DOS...

Van flyguille

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22-04-2005, 19:15

just write _FORMAT
and then COPY "MSXDOS.SYS" TO "B:"
and then COPY "COMMAND.COM" TO "B:"

but, first you needs to find those files

Van Delorean

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22-04-2005, 20:48

Flyguille, those commands are typed from BASIC?

I can make a non bootable floppy from images and copy those files to a ram disk (because only 1 floppy drive is available) and copy from ramdisk to the recently formatted floppy.

Van Manuel

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22-04-2005, 21:10

as I said: just format any disk on your MSX and then write software on it (in the form of separate files or as a disk image) with your PC. You can also copy MSXDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM with your PC on that MSX-formatted floppy. Or do as flyguille says from MSX-BASIC.

Van Delorean

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22-04-2005, 23:58

Ok thanks a lot, at last i understod, very thanks... Wink

Remember i only got before MSX1 with tape streamers... The disks is a new think for me Tongue