MIDI music in Xak Gazzel?

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Van evulopah

Paladin (669)

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18-10-2004, 18:13

Thx for the link Grauw

Van snout

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18-10-2004, 19:09

I agree with yum though that in most cases (even in Illusion City) the FM-songs sound better than the MIDI songs. I used to have a Roland JV-30 synth which had an MT-32 emulation mode, but then with improved sounds. The third part of the XAK Gazzel introdemo sounded truly amazing on that synth Wink

Van anonymous

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18-10-2004, 19:27

It's simple... FM RULEZ

Van Low_Profile

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18-10-2004, 19:37

You need a turbo R GT midi, with preverably a Roland CM32L (MT32's bigger brother). I noticed that in Illusion City some effects were wrong on a MT32, but ok on a CM32L.

In XAK Gazzel only the intro demo contains MIDI musix whilst having beforementioned hardware and M pressed during boot.

That's REALLY weird, as the CM32L is an exact copy of the MT-32... with only a few pcm samples added (some soundeffects like thunderclaps, rain, carhonking etc) but those are hardly a reason to go for the non-lcd version of the MT-32 Smile

I've owned both a MT-32 and a CM32L and they sound exactly the same. It could be those sound effects I'm talking about are used in Illusion City, but the music should sound exactly the same.

Van snout

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18-10-2004, 20:03

IIRC my MT-32 used to give an error during the start of IC/XAK-TOG. I think Sysex data was being sent a bit too quickly (or something like tgat). Can anyone verify if this is the case? If so, perhaps the CM32L could handle it all while the MT-32 couldn't.

Van Meits

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18-10-2004, 20:06

You need a turbo R GT midi, with preverably a Roland CM32L (MT32's bigger brother). I noticed that in Illusion City some effects were wrong on a MT32, but ok on a CM32L.

In XAK Gazzel only the intro demo contains MIDI musix whilst having beforementioned hardware and M pressed during boot.

That's REALLY weird, as the CM32L is an exact copy of the MT-32... with only a few pcm samples added (some soundeffects like thunderclaps, rain, carhonking etc) but those are hardly a reason to go for the non-lcd version of the MT-32 Smile

I've owned both a MT-32 and a CM32L and they sound exactly the same. It could be those sound effects I'm talking about are used in Illusion City, but the music should sound exactly the same.

There are effects in Illusion City's tunes, which won't be heard with an MT32. Indeed those additional samples.

edit: it was your ex cm32l which was used during the demonstration of Illusions in Tilburg 1997 Wink

Van Low_Profile

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18-10-2004, 20:12


edit: it was your ex cm32l which was used during the demonstration of Illusions in Tilburg 1997 Wink

lol... it was you who bought my CM32L? Big smile ... I think I sold it in Eindhoven on the interexpo fair if i remember correctly Smile

Van Jorito

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18-10-2004, 22:02

Actually, there's one instrument that sounds different in the MT-32 and CM-32L (or at least in the CM-64 I tried). Unfortunately that instrument is used quite often in the IC songs. IIRC, it's the Tube Bell, and it actually sounds better on the MT-32 than on the CM-64L (that is, if you leave out the extra noise it generates, and the loss of the sfx Wink)

Van snout

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18-10-2004, 22:05

so, what we really need is a MIDI patcher, an MT-32 and a CM-64 to create the 'ultimate Illusion City MIDI experience' ? Smile

Van W76NearDark

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19-10-2004, 12:23


edit: it was your ex cm32l which was used during the demonstration of Illusions in Tilburg 1997 Wink

lol... it was you who bought my CM32L? Big smile ... I think I sold it in Eindhoven on the interexpo fair if i remember correctly Smile

No, it was I who bought it from you. I had it for almost 2 years and then sold it at the fair in Tilburg (without a loss Smile ). I've never been to the Interexpo fair so I don't think you sold it there to me. Probably at a fair at Tilbirg or Zandvoort.

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