MSXdev'04 entry: Factory infection

by snout on 01-08-2004, 15:30
Topic: Software
Languages:

Karoshi Corporation have submitted another entry to the MSXdev'04 challenge: Factory infection. The purpose of the game is to keep a virus from spreading in the Karoshi corporation productions by shooting it, using two cannons. Of course, there are a lot of items you are not allowed to shoot. On the MSXdev'04 status page you can find a ROM and WAV version of the game, instructions, a cartridge label and a DVD-size game cover. Last but not least you can also download a dance-remix of the Factory Infection BGM.

Relevant link: Robsy's MSX Workshop

Comments (37)

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

anonymous's picture

01-08-2004, 15:40

"The purpose of the game is to keep a virus from spreading in the Karoshi corporation productions"

I'd worry more about bugs than virusses if I were them Tongue

By dioniso

Champion (479)

dioniso's picture

01-08-2004, 15:45

Come on, GuyveR800.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

anonymous's picture

01-08-2004, 15:51

Geez, it's a JOKE!
Lighten up!

Do you really have to interpret everything I say negatively?

By dioniso

Champion (479)

dioniso's picture

01-08-2004, 15:56

I didn't see it as something too offensive, but a little joke (maybe you saw my words too offensive) Chill out, everything's OK ... don't be a bad boy ;-)

By BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

BiFi's picture

01-08-2004, 15:59

I can imagine GuyveR800 taking dioniso's words seriously as there wasn't any smiley to emphasize it as being a joke.

By dioniso

Champion (479)

dioniso's picture

01-08-2004, 16:01

He,he. I also got that one.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

anonymous's picture

01-08-2004, 16:02

Maybe you'd care to explain what you meant with "Come on, GuyveR800" then?
The only meaning I know for these words is "don't be such an ***", but please educate me and the rest of the readers...

By dioniso

Champion (479)

dioniso's picture

01-08-2004, 16:13

It's like talking to a little child, saying to him: "Come on, don't be a bad boy". Points to make clear, especially for GuyveR800 (I'm sure the rest didn't take my 'Come on, GuyveR800" offensive):

1-I don't mind 'child' as you were a fool or something pejorative.
2-I didn't say "don't be such an ***". You put those words in my mouth.
3-I have always respected you as a person and as a good coder. I remember having told you so before.
4-My words never tried to be offensive in any way, even if I didn't put any smiley in my message.

If it's not clear in your mind, just tell me and I'll try to explain it again, don't worry.

Come on (again). Just relax. I can't believe we are talking so much about this. Just for saying "Come on, GuyveR800". I can't believe it! I reapeat it, I think you took it too seriously.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

anonymous's picture

01-08-2004, 16:29

Please understand, that there are certain people that continually attack me or think I'm starting a fight, even if I'm just making a joke or a comment. Just yesterday some messages had to be deleted by the MRC crew...

That's why I may have interpreted your 'Come on' too negatively, it's just because of my experiences with other people and the frustration that causes me.

Please accept my apologies, and know that I was not putting words in your mouth, I was merely stating my interpretation of them.

By dioniso

Champion (479)

dioniso's picture

01-08-2004, 16:33

I understand that. Don't worry. Everything is OK for me.

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

viejo_archivero's picture

01-08-2004, 17:45

Well, 10 finished games until now!. And 10 days remaining for the contest's end, so work hard in your entries! Smile

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6480)

mars2000you's picture

01-08-2004, 18:54

Pitpan, your contest is a great success ... It gives you much work . .. It gives me also some work to update the blueMSX rom database !

This time, the magic line to add in the file romdb.dat is :

43F31061 mirrored Factory Infection (2004)(Karoshi Corp.)[43F31061]

By dioniso

Champion (479)

dioniso's picture

01-08-2004, 19:27

Yeah! It's good to see you have to write again a magic line to add in romdb.dat, don't you think? More magic lines, more games.

By ccfg

Rookie (20)

ccfg's picture

01-08-2004, 19:28

Another cool MSXdev'04 entry, I like it!

mars2000you, could you just tell the blueMSX users to check the database file for changes instead of advertising about every change? Wink Maybe you could add a news post at blueMSX site if you see it necessary...

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6480)

mars2000you's picture

01-08-2004, 19:56

What's the problem ?

MRC is the first source of info .... so, if a blueMSX user reads the comments on a new rom game, he can immediateley (after my post) paste the new line in the romdb.dat file.

I can't indeed upload every hour a new version of the database ! And that's not a critic, it's really good to see so much activity on MSX ! 10 games (and probably more are waiting for us) in just some days ! That's the proof that MSX is ALIVE !

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

anonymous's picture

01-08-2004, 20:20

I agree with ccfg that you are advertising blueMSX too much. Sometimes you write several reactions on the same newspost, I think it's better to post these database lines on the blueMSX homepage.

blueMSX users will know where to look for them, and that way people that do not use blueMSX are not bothered with all these useless messages about it.

That said, I think an emulator is BROKEN if it needs a CRC entry in a database to run a MSX game, really...

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6480)

mars2000you's picture

01-08-2004, 20:54

About the first part of your reaction, I won't make any comment. Only the MRC team can appreciate if the infos that I give to the blueMSX users just for their comfort with the emulator is appropriate or not on MRC.

About your comment about the emulator, it only proves that you don't have never tried blueMSX. Don't speak about BROKEN emulator, you don't know how blueMSX really works. And I won't explain here . Just RTFM !

By Latok

msx guru (3938)

Latok's picture

01-08-2004, 20:59

If you want to continue your discussion about blueMSX, please do so in the forum. These reactions are meant to have your say about the latest MSXdev'04 entry Smile

By BiFi

Enlighted (4348)

BiFi's picture

01-08-2004, 21:51

In blueMSX you can select the rom-type when selecting a rom image.

By ro

Scribe (4962)

ro's picture

02-08-2004, 13:59

{mod....} I agree with G on the coloredMSX emu having to update a file with ROM CRC data.. what up with that? (not negative, i love the emu mars!) It's good to see MSXdv having more entries on the faultline..

By Vincent van Dam

Hero (513)

Vincent van Dam's picture

02-08-2004, 15:04

I also kinda aggree, the rom-type-guessing-algorithm looks broken for small rom files (100% fail on unknown 8k roms?!). Other than that it's a great emulator.

By ro

Scribe (4962)

ro's picture

02-08-2004, 15:31

to be complete; we're talking about runing the ROM to start BLUe, not using BLUE to open a ROM (get it?)

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6480)

mars2000you's picture

02-08-2004, 16:48

When problems are exposed gently (without screaming), I can accept the critics.

Indeed the automatic rom type should be working also for roms of 8kb. So a little improvement is required.

In the mean time, choose mirrored type mapper as default mapper for unknown roms (it means roms not included in the database) should do the trick for most of new rom games.

But you can also note that since version 1.6.0, the rom database is also used for another thing than a good rom starting. I think here at the display in the new interface. In the future, the database could be also used for special remapping of functions keys to the joypad buttons for playing a specific game. So, don't say that a rom database is something useless.

By Bart

Paragon (1422)

Bart's picture

02-08-2004, 18:17

You guys have trouble reading? Latok already asked you to seize the BlueMSX discussion in this MSXDev'04 topic. Please respect his kind question.

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6480)

mars2000you's picture

02-08-2004, 18:39

A suggestion for the MRC team : on a forum, a moderator could be able to split a discussion into two different threads, when it seems that the original discussion seems to be forgotten and that the users speak about a different problem.

Apparently, it's not easy to make when the original discussion is not in the forum himself, but in the news comments.

To be complete, don't count on me to open a thread on the forum about the good and less good points of blueMSX. There are too people here that see advertising when I make simple info. So, they should see again advertising if I open such a thread.

Of course, someone else could open such a thread. But as too often discussions on MRC are spoiled by some very excessive opinions or reactions, I won't answer no more on MRC. From this day, my only answer will be either complete silence, either a simple link to a thread in the blueMSX forum.

Sorry if this decision seems also excessive, but there's a limit to my patience. And there are other forums where the first rule (respect the other's ideas and initiatives) is well respected, without any need for the moderators to delete some reactions (In the MSX world, it happens only on MRC ... and that's not the fault of the mods, but of a little amount of users that find their pleasure by showing their non-respect of the other's ideas and initiatives.

By snout

Ascended (15187)

snout's picture

02-08-2004, 18:58

Mars2000you - First of all it's indeed quite easy to write a routine where you can split discussions on the forum in two different discussion (deciding when that should be done and when not is in fact the hard part), we might add that functionality in the future though. As for getting discussions started as reactions to the forums, that's a tad more difficult (damn those legacy limitations ;P). I tried to integrate the forums and the reactions in the past, but got too confused somewhere along the line. I might give it another go some other day.

As for people considering your forum posts about BlueMSX (whether you start them or not) as advertising: to a certain extent you are free to advertise on the MRC forums. The memers of Team Bomba can talk about Bombaman, Sunrise about their hardware, webmasters about their websites and emulator developers about their emulators. BlueMSX is no exception in that, we'll let you know when we think things are getting over the top though Wink.

Finally, I think it's wrong to stop posting on the MRC just because there are a few people that you can't get along with. Doing that, you give them what they want, don't you think? Besides, I personallly have the feeling a lot has changed on the MRC recently. The atmosphere on the forums certainly has had more agressive times. Either way, euhm... lets keep any further reactions to this newspost on the MSXdev entry called Factory Infection. If you (and with ' you' I mean everybody reading this) feel the need to discuss things any further, contact us or start a discussion on our forums ;)

By J-War

Champion (413)

J-War's picture

02-08-2004, 19:48

mars2000 is still right, too many threads made by enthousiasts ppl who whant to share their respective enthousiam about something their are working at, are spoiled by the general mood of some people hanging around the mrc and this is indeed annoying and quite unpolite.
Damn, Why do i think speaking of this is useless ? Sad

By J-War

Champion (413)

J-War's picture

02-08-2004, 19:51

And btw when you think this is all about some numbers and letters on a screen !
If some info isn't of any interest for you please disregard it, letters and numbers on a screen aren't harmful and won't hurt or cause severe diseases... i hope... Big smile

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

viejo_archivero's picture

02-08-2004, 20:32

Personally, it's very sad to click a "28 reactions" link about a game i've created (with Eduardo's help, of course) and discover that there are no comments about it, it's gameplay or graphics.

On the other hand, when the game is a conversion of an existing title there are a LOT of "comments" about it.

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

viejo_archivero's picture

02-08-2004, 20:49

Factory Infection is a simply game, with a game&watch gameplay. I created the concept years ago, but never worked on it, since a couple of weeks, when I made the entire engine of the game in BASIC. One day working with Robsy in Soukoban, I show him my progress, and he decided to code it in asm for the MSXdev'04. Smile Cool!

The graphics are quite simple: 2 color per character, and cute objects using only one sprite for each one. But the last stages are VERY DIFFICULT, and this is the best thing of the game. If anyone beats the 25 stages, he'll find a graphical ending!!!. Smile

Well, that is my little review about it. Perhaps someday I publish the MSXBasic early version Smile (it was extreeemely slooow). If anyone play this game, your reactions will be appreciated (the good and the bad ones :-D).

Thnx to all.

By snout

Ascended (15187)

snout's picture

02-08-2004, 21:00

I for one like the idea behind the game a lot. I got to stage 4, and then I ran out of spare time Wink

By Sylvester

Hero (589)

Sylvester's picture

02-08-2004, 21:22

After this long discussion, I thougt lets try the game Smile (it has to be special if so many people react on it) And I have to say it's addicted Smile) Allready made it till level 3, and still playing.

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

viejo_archivero's picture

02-08-2004, 21:32

Wait to see "Maniac" virus level and "Maniac" speed level!. Thanks snout and Sylvester for the comments, keep trying hard!. Wink

By Manuel

Ascended (19461)

Manuel's picture

02-08-2004, 23:47

I just played the game, and I think it's awesome!
Very good game idea, professional looking graphics and sounds! Keep it up!

By Imanok

Paragon (1200)

Imanok's picture

03-08-2004, 08:51

I agree with that!... very cool and original game! keep them coming!! Wink

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

viejo_archivero's picture

03-08-2004, 09:45

Thanx all of you for your reactions!. We will work hard in the rest of MSXdev entries we are working right now for you to enjoy them!. And again, thnx! Smile

By Manuel

Ascended (19461)

Manuel's picture

06-09-2022, 22:51

viejo_archivero wrote:

The graphics are quite simple: 2 color per character, and cute objects using only one sprite for each one. But the last stages are VERY DIFFICULT, and this is the best thing of the game. If anyone beats the 25 stages, he'll find a graphical ending!!!. Smile

It's a bit of a pity that there are several consecutive stages that are just identical...

Were you serious about that 25 stages??

See how to play it: https://youtu.be/fxmMXwluD6I