MSXdev'07 - Closed

ro: We have no news about The Goonies; Sphere Redux was discontinued as its author understood it was way too simple, but helped him to learn and finish Italian Stallion; Mystic Swords wasn't done on time, and as we want to polish the game as much as we can we at Karoshi have delayed its release to 2008. The entry from Infinite has been postponed too, as although the game was mostly done according to them, it still needs to be polished, so they've decided not to enter the contest with the game.

Why don't setting up the rules of the next MSXDev edition in january, so that 'Mystic Swords' and Infinite's game could entry the competition as the first games of the new edition??

ro: read here!

slotman: in addition to that, it's hard to define what took a year and what not. If you do unique completely new one-shot code for one game in one year time, then you could say that a game took a year to make. But what if you gradually make all kinda systems? E.g. we still use a gfx-system we made in spring 2006 already, we've used it on RNFF, and we've used it for our current postponed entry. If over the years you make all kinda engines, then the development of such engines will take some time, but in the end, making a game goes much faster. There's simply no telling how long it really takes to make a game. Our postponed entry was conceived on 1 December 2007 ^_^, yet it uses our gfx-system from '06, our music-player from spring '07, a souped-up editor from autumn'06 which was actually a souped-up version from spring'06. If we release next week, how long did development take? 5 weeks or nearly 2 years?

With regard to missing the deadline, it actually kinda funny when you think about. The conversion program for the music has been in development for well over a year now. And at least for the last couple of months it has proven solid and worked without major issues. And yesterday, exactly on the last day for the deadline, it starts producing subtly bad data streams for tunes created in the last few days. And not a single obvious reason for it either. Makes you wonder what coincidence really means.

We'll fix it. But I really wonder what will turn out to be the culprit.

wolf: your game was conceived in december - so no matter the libs/tools you have, it isn't a "1 year game" - the entries not ready for this year, will have a complete year to be debugged, improved (graphically, sound, music and gameplay-wise) and tuned for the best possible results.

Now whoever starts a new game, even having tons of tools to help, still have to balance gameplay, prepare songs, gfx, etc - which puts every new contestant on the next msxdev 08 behind those unfinished games.

But dont get me wrong, I was anxious to see Mystical Swords and Goonies the Movie... but guess I'll have to wait for them.

Now whoever starts a new game, even having tons of tools to help, still have to balance gameplay, prepare songs, gfx, etc - which puts every new contestant on the next msxdev 08 behind those unfinished games.Still, they could take another year themselves and apply for msxdev 09

Past years ...
Still, they could take another year themselves and apply for msxdev 09

Thinking about it, I should possess three to four (even more) 'not finished' entries of past years ... At least the game concept was developed further enough! It was strange that some people didn't wanted those, maybe gambling games and prizes would not be very popular into some circles or places.

Even Google seems to disregards addictive gambling and winning combinations!!!

Slots and electronic casino games seems to be so 'funny'. Like the Treasure Hunter types of software ...

There could be even other types of games and contraventions. Like the 'illegal' type of games.

Anyway, Carchano is not selling MegaRAM anymore. Maybe in another year or soo ...

I wonder who will get the prize for the best shooter (As there aren't any. Although balloon city comes close to a shooter)

Then Balloon city is the winner already.

I disagree with the idea that spending more than one year on an MSXdev entry is unfair.
I think that a team that spends two years developing a game deserves it more to win a price than someone who makes a game in just six months, unless the latter is so bright that he or she comes up with a better game in those six months. The MSXdev jury judges the games, not the programmers or production teams.

To compare the programming skills there are programming contests where the participants get equal time and tools to solve the same programming problems, Such contests are completely fair, but they do not produce any nice games.

I was thinking why not put some movies (trailer/demo) of the games on youtube and add those to the MSXdev site.
This isn't only a nice feature but might attract other sceners too.