SymbOS 2.1 Second Beta released

SymbOS 2.1 Second Beta released

by Prodatron on 01-06-2014, 23:13
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SymbOS 2.1 is near to completion, and so it's time for the second and probably the last Beta version

One month ago even experienced MSX users were complaining, that the Beta 1 was quite complicated to install. A full setup tool was already planned for the next major version, but due to these criticism Prodatron decided to implement it already now, and that is, what has mainly been done during the last weeks:

  • MSX-DOS 2 based setup utility. This provides a full installation process of SymbOS to any given destination drive or path. This includes copying all required files as well.
  • new floppy disc support for the MSX Turbo-R. After another try it was possible to debug and complete the old Toshiba FDC driver with the help of Alex Wulms Fastcopy source codes.
  • Autodetection of all supported mass storage devices: Philips/Sony floppy disc(WD2793), National floppy disc (MB8877A), SVI floppy disc (WD1793), Microsol floppy disc, Panasonic Turbo-R floppy disc (TC8566AF), Sunrise IDE/CF card interface, MegaSD compatible SD card reader (OCM, MegaFlashRomSCC+SD)
  • the FDC autodetection has been improved by Marcos Blanco (Cbsfox) and is now based on search expressions for the content of the different disc roms.

With the new setup utility more people should now be able to install SymbOS properly on their MSX machine. Of course criticism and suggestions are still welcome!

Relevant link: SymbOS

Comments (24)

By NYYRIKKI

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01-06-2014, 23:27

tR floppy support!!! YES! YES! YES!!! Running Naked in a Field of Flowers

By Prodatron

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01-06-2014, 23:42

Yeah, that was necessary after 7 years of having a non-working driver lying around LOL!
Please note that the TurboR floppy disc driver could make problems when writing to disc in Z80 mode. This happens rarely but could occure. So better don't slow down your TurboR Wink

By Randam

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01-06-2014, 23:44

Who wants to slow it down? Very cool that you added turbo R floppy support and it now comes with setup util. Must give it another try now.

By Prodatron

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02-06-2014, 00:03

I think that's the most important property of this version: Are people able to install it without problems? Smile I would be very very happy about any feedback!

By karloch

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02-06-2014, 00:07

Awesome looking setup utility! Congrats Prodatron!

By KdL

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02-06-2014, 00:21

Many thanks and congrats me too! Big smile

By Meits

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02-06-2014, 07:11

Very good timing... I'm receiving a ps2 mouse interface this week Smile

By edoz

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02-06-2014, 08:24

Running Naked in a Field of Flowers Running Naked in a Field of Flowers Running Naked in a Field of Flowers the turbo-r floppy driver is very cool to have!!!

By giuseve

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02-06-2014, 11:02

@prodatron: Simply Great !!!! The installer is amazing, very easy to use and better than windows95 one.
I've tried on BlueMSX and it works great
I've tried on OpenMSX having some problems with BOOSTED_TURBOR and FS_A1_GT machines. For example when in control panel I add the floppy as new drive, it doesn't let me input the new drive name in the field.

Anyway, I saw that there are no longer programs in Menu/Programs and on the desktop. Maybe it could be nice to include the link to main app again. In fact I saw that now all SYMBOS stuff are in the SYMBOS folders.

Now, what about a MSX2 DOS1 FLOPPY Version ???
I mean a light version that would run on MSX2 with 128K, using Floppy drive A and DOS1 ?
DOS1 : putting all the files in the same floppy without the use of subdir maybe DOS2 would'n be more necessary?
FLOPPY SETUP: Maybe a diskswapping automated setup for the MSX with only a drive and the setup to A: from B: for models with 2 drives?
128K : Reducing colors to the original layout, or making a CPC-Screen mode 1 or cpc-screen mode 2 like version?

Great work guys !!!

By W76NearDark

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05-06-2014, 10:32

...and how about support for the most awesome SCSI interface ever? The MEGA-SCSI that is.

If there is none it will still be useless to me, sad enough.

By edoz

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05-06-2014, 11:43

Are you still using a scsi interface and not a small cf or sd card ?

By W76NearDark

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05-06-2014, 11:47

cf also... but a scsi hdd is more of my taste.

By edoz

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05-06-2014, 13:51

Is this scsi supporting fat16 ?

By TheSpecialist

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05-06-2014, 14:02

@edoz: In fact, FAT16 was likely developed on it.

By Prodatron

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05-06-2014, 16:53

Is there any source code for the MegaSCSI available? (sector read/write)
I had in my mind, that the MegaSD is based on the MegaSCSI - or did I mix something here?

By Manuel

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05-06-2014, 22:47

SCSI has nothing to do with SD cards Prodatron...

By TheSpecialist

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05-06-2014, 23:02

Prodatron wrote:

Is there any source code for the MegaSCSI available? (sector read/write)
I had in my mind, that the MegaSD is based on the MegaSCSI - or did I mix something here?

This is correct. Both are developed by ESE Artists' Factory. Same guys that designed the ESE MSX System 3 that got turned into 1chipMSX.

By Prodatron

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05-06-2014, 23:29

@Manuel: For sure, and because of this I wasn't sure if I mixed something Smile
@TheSpecialist: Ok, so both have the same creator - but not the same technique...
Anyway, if someone knows about any available MegaSCSI source codes that would be helpfull.

By W76NearDark

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06-06-2014, 13:05

By Prodatron

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06-06-2014, 19:28

Wow, Konamiman again, he really rulez! Smile
The third one can be usefull if I get the discrom for disassembly as well. But that should be possible. Then testing has to take place in BlueMSX as I don't own a MegaSCSI in real (but the one from the MSX Club Gouda). Would be cool to have the driver finished for SymbOS 3.0.

By edoz

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06-06-2014, 19:45

Is there soms compability between scsi devices ?

By Randam

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06-06-2014, 21:08

Prodatron, if you are able to make a driver for MEGASCSI you are my hero! I absolutely love mine and if I could use it with SymbOS it would be awesome. Especially if it would be able to mount diskimages or even launch games with ep.com from it. But I'm guessing the latter wouldn't be possible.

By edoz

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07-06-2014, 00:28

Symbos is not compatible with ep.com as it is It's own os....
so i dont now if it is handy to read disk images for msx files in symbos?
At the moment i work on a rom loader for supersoniq so we can launch sega games....in symbos.. It is still work in process... And i need soms help also Wink
so wat You want is a launcher to run normal msx software but then you leave symbos and i dont know if that makes sense...
(as You can do that in msxdos as well) i think we just need more software for symbos Wink with the new symstudio we can boost that Smile

By Randam

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07-06-2014, 13:05

Well I think it might be handy on the same level as a romloader. Besides that you can mount a diskimage with ep as well without booting it. So you could look at files on the disk images etc. But stick to your own roadmap: any software for symbos is great.