Are there plans for new SymboOS release?

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By foody

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09-12-2021, 22:51

Right now we are in SymboOS 3.0 are there plan for new feature release? Are there plans to make SymboOS standalone like Windows 7 and up where it doesn't start from DOS? If someone want to use CF or SD and partition their own card to install SymboOS alone away from DOS limitation, it would be great if it can be done? Will it support longer filenames (since it skip the DOS all together). Can we have ability to have our own profile where we login to enter the system, add ability to protect our folders from being opened, support gfx for higher resolution and more colors?

We need more SymboOS games and applications for MSX! Like seriously!! Can we be able to use opfxsd but in GUI system in SymboOS supporting up to 4 MB ROM size? I am hoping this will be my main MSX system and skip MM and SofaRUN or DOS or even BASIC. Seeing I can use BASIC inside SymboOS and able to code in full or window screen and listen to audio while doing.

I want as soon as I turn my MSX....bam it boots to SymboOS. Can I be able to mount as my many MSX .dsk images and have it boot directly from SymboOS and use 1-9 to switch disks while playing the game?

You guys are seeing where I am headed...right?

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By tfh

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09-12-2021, 23:02

oO

By foody

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09-12-2021, 23:12

heheh!! You put a smile on my face! Thank you tfh!

By ducasp

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10-12-2021, 14:00

foody wrote:

Right now we are in SymboOS 3.0 are there plan for new feature release? Are there plans to make SymboOS standalone like Windows 7 and up where it doesn't start from DOS? If someone want to use CF or SD and partition their own card to install SymboOS alone away from DOS limitation, it would be great if it can be done? Will it support longer filenames (since it skip the DOS all together). Can we have ability to have our own profile where we login to enter the system, add ability to protect our folders from being opened, support gfx for higher resolution and more colors?

We need more SymboOS games and applications for MSX! Like seriously!! Can we be able to use opfxsd but in GUI system in SymboOS supporting up to 4 MB ROM size? I am hoping this will be my main MSX system and skip MM and SofaRUN or DOS or even BASIC. Seeing I can use BASIC inside SymboOS and able to code in full or window screen and listen to audio while doing.

I want as soon as I turn my MSX....bam it boots to SymboOS. Can I be able to mount as my many MSX .dsk images and have it boot directly from SymboOS and use 1-9 to switch disks while playing the game?

You guys are seeing where I am headed...right?

Well, SymbOS is mostly Predatron's work and most of its source code is closed, so you better talk directly to him as most of your requests can be only done by him. Tongue

By foody

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10-12-2021, 16:00

How do I reach him? Thanks.,

By The Apeman

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10-12-2021, 16:21

By foody

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10-12-2021, 16:43

But in msx.org looking at a person's profile does not give me an option to PM that person. So seeing his profile and what he posted holds no benefit to me. I assume he reads posts in forums anyways, so I am hoping I already got his attention with this post.

- Sits down on the chair, places his feet on the desk and smokes a cigar - Aaah!

By edoz

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10-12-2021, 17:36

Hi Foody,

foody wrote:

Right now we are in SymboOS 3.0 are there plan for new feature release?

Maybe i can give you some inside information about the status of SymbOS as i'm one of the members of the Symbiosis team. SymbOS 3.0 was the latest stable release and already released a time ago. Currently Prodatron is working on the 3.1 package. And this is almost in the final stage. The 3.1 version will contain new device drivers, drivers fixing, bug fixing and will have some new features. For example it will be able to run the email client for SymbOS. Also the v9990 game mode is compatible with the 3.1 package. (Like the G9k Flappy Bird example)

We are also planning to release SymbOS 3.1 on disk as well. Currently we are orientating for this.

foody wrote:

Are there plans to make SymboOS standalone like Windows 7 and up where it doesn't start from DOS?

You have a big wish list and most of them are not that easy as you think. Remember that the MSX machine boots from a ROM not from a disk. This could be a BASIC ROM or DISK ROM. The DISK ROM or mass storage device is searching for NEXTOR/DOS boot files, and yes, they could be replaced but why do this as you need MSXDOS to setup things as well. Most people like to run SymbOS next to MSXDOS and like to install it.

foody wrote:

Can we have ability to have our own profile where we login to enter the system, add ability to protect our folders from being opened, support gfx for higher resolution and more colors?

SymbOS support 16 colors and the higher and lower resolutions on the MSX and G9K. Disk protection was never implemented in FAT.. so i doubt it. About user profiles.. that is a funny idea. It should be possible as all settings are stored in files, which could be unique for each user.. but do you have multiple MSX users at home?

foody wrote:

We need more SymboOS games and applications for MSX! Like seriously!!

I agree! If you like to program your own i suggest you to use the Quigs development suite.

By foody

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10-12-2021, 17:49

I will take you on it with quigs development suite!

I WANT TO BUY THAT FLOPPY DISK!! I want to buy the installer!! When we can do pre-order and where we can order it?

Thank you for answering my questions and I love that disk!!

Can the SymbOS disk be write protected forever...like CD you can only read into?

By Grauw

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10-12-2021, 17:44

You can probably edit MSXDOS2.SYS / NEXTOR.SYS with a hex editor and replace the COMMAND2.COM filename with SYM.COM to make it boot straight into SymbOS… Although you can also just as well put it in the AUTOEXEC.BAT.

By foody

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10-12-2021, 18:05

Grauw wrote:

You can probably edit MSXDOS2.SYS / NEXTOR.SYS with a hex editor and replace the COMMAND2.COM filename with SYM.COM to make it boot straight into SymbOS… Although you can also just as well put it in the AUTOEXEC.BAT.

True. If I can use opfxsd flash inside SymbOS then that is exactly what I will do!! I will replace mm with SymbOS. I just go under CLI command in SymbOS, go to the directory with ROMs in it or disks..flash it inside SymbOS...reboot..and ta-da play games.

If I can do this now...today I will replace mm with SymbOS...heck...actually if I can run mm when I am in SymbOS...I will do that now. SymbOS will be my main OS on MSX for life.

Hey edoz, does SymbOS 3.1 support WiFi? I want to buy BadCat WiFi cartridge, will it work with SymbOS?

But I just want to confirm if it is possible.

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