The keyboard is not a standard option. That's probably why the MSX logo was removed.
Philips NMS 800/801 is not a MSX because these is no cartridge slot or bus expansion, and the keyboard is specific.
Is the Frael keyboard standard?
And what about the Sony video titlers? Standard keyboards????
This argument does not make the difference concerning the usable software.
Is the Frael keyboard standard?
No.
Sony video titlers can use a keyboard, is not?
This argument does not make the difference concerning the usable software.
That's why it would be better to say: "Machines that use a system close to MSX computers" instead of "Hidden MSX"
You don't answer about the usable software without patch or conversion, what's for me an important criteria, more important and less discutable than the keyboard argument.
ColecoVision can't be in the same category as the Zemmix MSX1 consoles.
I answered but you go faster than me to re-edit my posts. Read my posts again!
I will then just repeat myself: If you put ColecoVision and the Zemmix MSX1 consoles in the same category, it will add confusion: many people will think that MSX ROM games will work on ColecoVision just because they work on the Zemmix MSX1 consoles.
You should calm down a bit. I posted earlier because of the confusion between "Hidden MSX" and "Almost MSX". Give me time to react and see if anything has changed before react yourself.
I don't like when you ignore a big part of my arguments. All was already said here:
"The Zemmix consoles use the same internal system as the MSX computers! Also the NMS 800/801. You are just limited to MSX ROM games or MSX tape games according the case!
What can't be said for ColecoVision or Nabu PC, because the system is different while being very close to MSX. But you can't use MSX games on these systems, you need to convert/patch the ROMS for example."
Anyway, you have updated the page. So, the discussion is closed.
As for me, I don't like your repeated aggressive insinuations. As well as your systematic editions immediately after mines, and only mines.
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