policies suggestion

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Par [D-Tail]

Ascended (8255)

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20-06-2007, 01:40

Well said, snout.

Par Manuel

Ascended (18246)

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20-06-2007, 09:21

To be honest: I never read the policies. I just use the forum and all and try to be nice. So far, so good, no complaints, no problems, no policies needed. I know the idea behind MRC and that makes me not need to read the policies at all.
Policies could also be shortened to: This is the MRC, use it if you like it and try to be nice. If the owners think you're not nice, you'll be warned. If you're still not nice, you'll probably be kicked off. (And this is the same for all forums out there, isn't it?)
It's not a complex matter at all, is it?

Par wolf_

Ambassador_ (9903)

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20-06-2007, 12:58

The policies used to be like that, once upon a time..

Par Manuel

Ascended (18246)

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20-06-2007, 13:30

I find it weird that MRC would need other policies than other forums. Does the 'new' policy still have added value? Maybe things should be normalized.

Par poke-1,170

Paragon (1765)

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20-06-2007, 13:34

isn't it up to the webmaster to do something about it ? Also I don't think any user has the right to complain if they behave like a dick.
I mean,you visit a website run by the people who founded it, so you should be thankful to hang around there in the first place.
When you visit someone's house you don't piss on the hosts table now do you ?
(poke admits he is tempted to do that...though Tongue )
Host's house, host's rules

Par wolf_

Ambassador_ (9903)

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20-06-2007, 13:47

When you visit someone's house you don't piss on the hosts table now do you ?
You don't? oO

Ah, so that's why all those people in the Royal Palace were staring at me.. hmmm..

Par tfh

Prophet (3007)

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20-06-2007, 19:16

This is the MRC, use it if you like it and try to be nice. If the owners think you're not nice, you'll be warned. If you're still not nice, you'll probably be kicked off. (And this is the same for all forums out there, isn't it?)
Just bring is back to that Smile
the MRC (and any other forum/site) ain't no democracy, so Smile

Par HansO

Paladin (672)

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27-06-2007, 19:10


the MRC (and any other forum/site) ain't no democracy, so Smile

True, its no democracy. But the MRC is not a multinational billion dollar company filled with paranoid lawyers protecting their rights (Microsoft, Apple, Sony and more of those evil legal companies), but I suppose for a hobby and out of love for a worthless old and forgotten computer system. So why they let the lawyers in and did the policies this way, I dont know and dont care anymore, this has been discussed before and they ignore our feelings and arguments.

These are the parts of the policies I find not acceptable at all:


You also declare to periodically check the policies for changes

1.4 By disagreeing with this agreement/these policies you agree to cease using the MRC and its services immediately. This policy will stay in effect, even if you disagree with the terms of the agreement. Disagreeing with the agreement/these policies does not grant you any rights to violate the rulings of these policies.

2.4 MRC preserves the right not to publish submitted content or to alter the distribution package of the submitted content, before or after publication, without prior consent.

3.2 MRC does not claim any copyrights to user submitted content. In accordance with 2.1 however, MRC may publish submitted content, without limitation, at its own discretion, in any form available

Like in a real democracy we have a choice. I find the policies of the MRC so agressive that I will never post any file or a topic with any value on the MRC. The policies tell me the MRC can do anything they want with my material and they can change the policies without warning (I will have to discover changes myself and I have already agreed to those just by reading it!) to whatever they like. So I stick to reading and an occasional useless topic or pointer to free content, and stay that way within the policies. But they will never get any value from me in good trust, because the policies show they dont trust us.

There are better and applicable policies, like the Creative Commons in one of its variations.

Par Bart

Paragon (1422)

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27-06-2007, 21:45

Hanso, the policies are this agressive because MRC has to protect its contents. In the past there have been many attempts (and some were succesful) to corrupt/remove content. Sometimes this was done by the author himself and sometimes this was done by forcing MRC through third parties. MRC would like things to be different too, but unfortunately that seems impossible. But you know all about that by your own experiences aswell, unfortunately.

Oh by the way, I guess the webmasters who put the policies together should be flattered by your "let the lawyers in" remark? Big smile

Par HansO

Paladin (672)

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27-06-2007, 21:57

Bart,

I do understand, too well, where all this comes from (and still is coming), and why you did it. Alas, it feels too much like giving in to those threats.

But as I wrote, I only post useless topics here Wink

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