The Sorrow of Gadhlan'Thur

I must make a correction and clarify this so people don't have false hopes:
"If you haven't pre-ordered, here's another oppertunity. There's a chance for another batch of 25 cartridges to be sold, and perhaps even with SCC build in."

No, those 25 available cartridges don't have SCC built in.
The SCC built in batch is for those who made the pre-puchase only.
There will be no more SCC built in batches, I can 100% assure you that.

thanx Kai, changed text.

It would be more than uber cool to do another SCC included cart batch.. woohoo for SCC

I know, but making the SCC batch exclusive for pre-purchasers is a way to thank them for their support and for the long, long wait they had to endure.
It would be very unfair to destroy that exclusivity by making a new batch in the fututre, so we can't do that.

Anyway, if the SCC cartridge manufacturer manages to create a new batch, we will make a new SCC exclusive game. A nemesis/gradius kind of game would be cool with scc, yes?

By the way, I dunno who made that "Sorrow of Gadhlan' Thur" text on the main image of the newspost, but it looks freaking awesome!
I love it! Congrats!

I think a general appreciation is in order for the provided artwork next to the news items. So well done and thanks for the effort put in to it!

Brilliant music and graphics. Gameplay looks really good too. Well done!

Dear Kai,

I've been far from MSX games for ages now, and I have to say I'm really impressed to discover such a fine game made in 2019 for it! Congrats! By the way, have you ever thought of porting it to, for example, Nintendo Switch? This console has strong retro game appeal, and it could give to your game a broader audience.

Cheers,

Alex

Hi Ivan,
Thank you for your interest on "The Secret of the Four Winds" project :)
There is plenty more footage and the game is far more advanced than what you can see on those videos, but for now we don't want to tease the public since the release of that game is still a bit far.

Kind regards:
Oscar Kenneth

We just started sending the digital versions.
We will finish sending them tomorrow.
Please don't forget to check your spam folders!

I am very happy to hear that you like it

Hello!

Just checking if you sent all digital versions for pre-orders. Because I still don't have mine

I am VERY happy to hear/read that!

Hi Gloriou,
Is it a Carnivore 2?
To flash the game with Carnivore 2 you must download a particular config file from the manufacturer’s page (a file which starts with dsk2rom) and use the c2man to edit the rom’s entrance in order to force this config to be loaded when that rom is executed.
Please refer to the Carnivore2 user's manual to see how to do this exactly, since this involves several steps which are difficult to explain for me.

Yessssss got it
Thanks, and sorry to bother you

Kai the desert very hard

i got the ring >>>>hard to get it u know what i mean >>>>my mind lost many places many areas you have to focus

I like your chances!
Please also consider that there is a big factor of skill, strategy and technique involved in the combat areas.
Try to evade as many enemies as you can, and eliminate the most uncontrollable ones as soon as possible.
You can enter an screen, take a quick peek at it, see where the enemies are located, exit the screen, mentally plan your moves, kill an enemy exit the screen, hit an enemy, exit the screen (enemy hp is not reseted by exiting the screen) so you can use a hugue amount of techniques and tricks, together with the character's skills in order to advance a difficult area.

Congratulations!
I hope you enjoyed it

kai...in my opinion that best game you ever made,,,,,,i enjoyed too much.....

you have to focus too much in the areas and the places....many tricks

Gloriou.....hala balsadeeq m7d fahim klamna

I am very glad that you enjoyed the game so much regardless of the suffering

Thank you very much for your kind words about the game, Hamlet!
Regarding the game-play, I must thank all the beta-testers who have played it over and over and not only helped me solve bugs but also to polish and balance the gameplay with their expertise.
Regarding the music, all the credit is for John Hassink and Manuel Dopico.
I want to apologize to them because they had to suffer through my high demands and I squeezed them until I got what I wanted exactly.
I am very happy that this game is being liked so much for those who have played it. That really cheers me up!

Ooh, never mind! I decided to retrace my steps, and finally found it -- along with a very KAI-style secret item that's not listed in the manual! Sneaky, sneaky!

This game is really awesome, though, to be sure. Great job as always, man! I'll have to concur with Hashem that this is your best game to date -- it reminds me a lot of the indie Windows game "Alwa's Awakening," which is a compliment I don't make lightly (as I absolutely adore that game!).

-Tom

One day, I'd like to, when I upgrade my MSX. And I anticipate I'll like it, but I don't think I'll like it more than Gadhlan' Thur, if only because the style of game is less appealing to me -- I've never been a huge fan of the Shinobi games, so the gameplay in Life On Earth doesn't appeal to me as much. It's too linear.

-Tom

I got the cartridge this week. Many thanks Oscar and congratulations to the whole team! Very addicting game. Hopefully is holiday time. Not just an action RPG: you have to think carefully and ask yourself why this or that object is placed there. Many very good games came to my mind when I played it for the first time. Thanks!

@Kai, I will buy for sure the cartridge version of The Sorrow of Gadhlan'Thur. The game has received a lot of praise and very good reviews. Will get it at the next users' meeting in Barcelona (or Badalona) if you attend it.

I hope you are progressing with El Secreto de los Cuatro Vientos, you told me that the game will be huge. It looks amazing with those graphics in screen 8 and 256 colours, visually it reminds me as if it were a game for SNES. Keep up the good work!

@Kai, I am surprised about your statement about piracy, didn't know that nowadays there were people at those meetings with recent MSX software pirated. Do not worry, in my humble opinion the vast majority of MSX users are not interested in such software. For me blank floppy disks (and tapes) with pirated MSX software copied onto them worth absolutely nothing (what an anachronism!). My idea was to save some shipping costs, I will get the original game on cartridge by any mean!

II need a little help...
This is my situation.

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I can't enter the statue (I need the key).
The Desert zone is REALLY deadly...

So..Where to find the Sword +2 and +3? at least in which area? :-?

Thanx

Sorry to say but I don't share your viewpoint. According to your words, now it seems that the whole Spanish MSX community, developers and consequently its events are an allegory to piracy. You should beware of words before making serious accusations like these.

I haven't said that, so don't put words into my mouth.
I am not acusating the organizers or everyone, but the fact that is there are individuals commiting piracy in those events and I don't want to see it. Is that fair enough?

Dear warmize,
To create and sell illegal reproductions of software without the owner's consent, for a profit is, by definition, piracy, so I am not a liar nor I am lying.
I know many people in the MSX spanish community don't consider that to be piracy, but the police detaining people selling illegal reproductions of movies in bars and beaches would disagree.
I am not saying this for you in particular, or for all the spanish community, but when a community (a local community for example) considers someone a bad person because he is against piracy, perhaps it is time to see if there is something wrong with that community's ideology. Since the community will not do it to itself and there is no way to change it, my only choice is to remove myself from that community.
Is that fair enough?

I always had a problem with illegal reproductions when they are made for a profit, and I stated it the same way as in this case. I have, for example, nothing against the AAMSX compilations because those are not sold for profit, but just to fund the Barcelona Meetings and keep that event free for all visitors, nor other compilations that have been made with no personal gain.
The thing is that over the last 2 years or less (not suddenly) more and more people making reproductions for profit have been appearing and there are more and more of them every time, to the point where I and others have been having difficulties to find flash cartridges for over one year now, and we must see how many people support those reproductions while they don't support some homebrew, (for example, the sorrow of gadhlan thur, 20 preorders only).
The lack of cartridges and support forced me to look for support elsewhere, while I had to see how people are earning more money than a homebrew developer by selling games that aren't theirs, and having more support from the scene than someone who has been working for hundreds or thousands of hours in a new game.
I understand that all this is something that is difficult to empathize with if you never lived or felt something like this before, so I don't expect many people to empathize, but suffice to say that I don't wish to see it and I don't want to be a part of this.

Thio's odyssey was a test, something to show to the intellivision scene and to grasp their attention.
It was never published with those graphics, premise or playability.
The game was re-made and redesigned before it was published with another name.

As for making clones that look similar to other games, that is part of the game industry (every game made nowadays is the clone of a clone of a clone) and that does not erase the thousands of hours a developer puts into that game.

Regarding me saying such things in public, I don't see the need to lie, here or anywhere, or to anyone, about the reason I will stop attending MSX meetings or why the MSX is now just a hobby for me.
I belive I should not be the one ashamed of it.

As for why I mentioned those 2 places only, it is because those are the 2 meetings where I am expected to assist by the person who asked. I am not targeting anyone in particular.

-In Badalona meetings sell or buy anything is forbidden
-Nontheless it still happens, and you know it, and that is the problem and the reason of my comments.

-Did you plan properly the launch of your last productions?
-Yes, responsibly, just asking what I needed or was preordered at the moment.

-So...you had problems of stock of cartridges? And it's not your first time as far as I know.
-No, it is not the first time, and it is worse every time, not just for me.

-Or you thought you would need some amount of cartridges at some date and then cancelled the buy because it was not ready? Or something else you are not saying?
-That never happened, I don't owe anything to any cartridge manufacturer, I never ordered more than I needed or what it was paid for in advance by the costumers, and I never said "save me this amount of cartridges just in case I need them" or anything like that. I know some people did that, but I never did and I have written proof of that. Please don't trust the rumors (lies) other people spread. They have a reason to lie (to get rid of their part of the responsability/blame and make it look like it's all my fault), I don't have any reason.
My cartridge providers have been:
-Rafa Bollero for the 2048Kb flash cartridges
-Manuel pazos (for SCC cartridges).
-Jose Angel Velasco (for sd cartridges)

I have bought and paid every single amount I have asked, and I never cancelled any amount I have ordered, nor I have said: "please save xxx cartridges for me in case I need them"
I know Brunilda and Ghouls and Ghosts managed to get hold of a certain amount of cartridges without any kind of advance payment for as long as they needed, but I never used that kind of favor, nor I knew that was possible, that is why there are SCC cartridges for Brunilda and Ghouls and Ghosts, but there are not for "The sorrow of Gadhlan Thur".

-You have not been the only one in having cartridges stock problems. And you know it.
-That is exactly what I posted here previously. It's not something just related to me nor I am the only one affected by it. Others are suffering the same consequencies. It's a serious problem.

-Please, don't mix your cash flow or publish planning problems with the thinks you may like or dislike.
-I don't. My inhability to adquiere cartridges is not related to cash flow problems, since I only order what buyers have already paid (and I always try to have a reserve of 10 or 15 cartridges at all times for the online shop), but as you said yourself I am not the only one having issues when looking for cartridges. That is not a cash issue.

Jordi, feel free to belive any one sided version you might have heard if that is what you need or that gives you a good trip, but there are always at least 2 versions of every story.
You never bothered to ask me my version of all this and now you are spreading rumors and lies that you convinced yourself to be the truth because you enjoy it more than the actual truth might be or for whatever reason beyond my understanding.
Everything I said here (because you guys brought it up) are just facts which I can prove beyond any shadow of doubt, and I can prove them to you any time you like, if you have the slightest interest in the facts.

Perhaps this time, but I wasn't there to see it, was I?
But I was there in all other ocasions, and I saw what I saw, and I am not the only one.

It looks like when you read you understand what you wish to understand.
Please you read my messages carefully again:
I previously said "some individuals", not everyone. I also said: not the organizers.
At 25-09-2019, 11:10 I wrote:
"I am not acusing the organizers or everyone, but the fact that is there are individuals commiting piracy in those events and I don't want to see it. Is that fair enough?"

I haven't decided what other people can or can't do. What I said over and over is:
I don't want to see it nor to be a part of it.

I don't need to say anything, I just replied to the questions I have been asked in the most truthful manner possible. I have nothing to hide. Do you?

One thing is what I might say, which people can choose to belive or not. Another thing is what I can proove, which noone can choose not to belive, but few are interested in.

By the way, just a reminder:
My post regarding this was from a month ago aprox. and it caused no fuzz whatsoever.
I haven't written about this ever since and just because I was asked, and I have been disconnected from the spanish scene for many, many months now.
All this is just you. You are the one calling me a liar, asking questions, spreading rumors and lies and making me give explanations.
Do you expect me to lie?
Am I the one creating this flame?
I am literally just replying to your questions, rumors and lies.
It's all on you.

I told you from the first day, you would be my SD provider, Rafa Bollero would continue to be my Flash cartridge provider, and if he ever was out of stock and I needed cartridges urgently, I would contact you. I said that to you in fromt of a bunch of people and via whatsapp.
I did a few times and I bought all the ones you had in stock in that moment.
When I asked you when you could have more, you always replied "in several months" (short version).
The last time you told me "I can make 10 boards a week for all my costumers".
That's all. You have nothing to do with it. You never did.

Before the reproduction boom started, I or anyone never had issues getting cartridges inmediatelly.
From 1 year ago, not only me, there are difficulties to get cartridges.
Those are the facts.

This is the reason why new cartridge manufacturers have appeared in Spain over the last month.

I have proof of everything I said.
Also, I don't have any reason to lie.

I understand to you Ivan but this is the international site.

That's why he better had typed it in English himself

Oh man! How dare you to question my great research and findings? Duh!
(just kidding)

I should probably google something first instead of thinking out loud. If you google that word, there's a whole bunch links about that show, lol

Finally....BEATED!!!

Yeah.