SD-Snatcher retranslation "Project Melancholia" released

Champion (401)

02-01-2014, 22:48

I've started playing it... and its great!
But i was just wondering: i'm at the the warehouse now where I need to find Gibson.. I found little John that has metal creatures running around them.. I didnt want to fight them straight away because I was about to level up..
I left the room to fight some other creatures but when I got back the creatures that where running around little john where gone! As soon as I "touched" little john (i know..I know.. that must sound weird...) I still had to do the fight though..
But was this already a bug in the original?

Par Louthrax

Prophet (2496)

03-01-2014, 00:09

Whooohoo, tested on my Turbo-R with MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD, in SCC+ mode, and using RunIt. Works great !!

Par Louthrax

Prophet (2496)

03-01-2014, 01:03

Works fine too on VG8235 with the same configuration.

The conversations are much more detailed compared to Oasis's translation, it really makes it worth finishing the game again to see what we missed at that time Proportionnal fonts are beautiful, this is just perfect ! Maybe the only tiny issue is that on a real TV, during the demo, some wide texts do not fit entirely on the screen (well, just half a letter, everything remains readable and understandable).

Congratulations Melancholia team for your awesome job, 2014 starts well

PS : Does anybody know if an english translation of the manual has been released ? I'd like to make myself a nice package with UGC box, printed disks and manual !

Par Hrothgar

Champion (479)

03-01-2014, 07:20

This looks like a nice motivation to start playing this game again. I never finished it.
Can anybody tell whether versions of the game "in the wild" are appropriate originals for the patching, or do we need some obscure uncracked game that's hardly findable? I'm not asking for URLs but just for the general compatibility.

Par Moniz

Champion (401)

03-01-2014, 08:15

@ Hrothgar: I couldnt make a proper dump of my original disks so I did some searching too..
I found a version that is clean (no hacks or "old" translation patch done to it, but copy protection removed) on an "MSX Archive" (google!)
This works fine so far!
It's fun! but to bad it was released the day before I had to start working again.... I'm tired now ! hahahaha

Par NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (6093)

03-01-2014, 08:48

What a great new year's present! I've not played SD-Snatcher at all, so maybe now it is good time to start when we have a proper translation!

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

03-01-2014, 10:26

Wonderful! Works fine with Turbo R from Sunrise CF cartridge and Runit. There was issues with imputting the name on the start screen as the letters didn't somehow fit on the screen and were on the right side instead. Otherwise great job overall! I'm happy!

Par Moniz

Champion (401)

03-01-2014, 11:29

@Akiguchi: thats weird... I'm using the same setup (turbo R-, CF interface and runit) but no simular problems here...

Par Louthrax

Prophet (2496)

03-01-2014, 11:33

Akiguchi wrote:

Wonderful! Works fine with Turbo R from Sunrise CF cartridge and Runit. There was issues with imputting the name on the start screen as the letters didn't somehow fit on the screen and were on the right side instead. Otherwise great job overall! I'm happy!

I had kind-of the same problem when I first patched non-originals disk-images. Find the right one and it should be fine.

Par Valken

Resident (50)

03-01-2014, 13:40

Absolutely nice translation.
The game make much more sense. However, since I play the english, short version of Snatcher, I feel like SD Snatcher is to Snatcher what Anime are to books. Very good but some dimensions are missing.
Beside that, good job guys.
Thank!

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

03-01-2014, 14:28

Valken wrote:

Absolutely nice translation.
The game make much more sense. However, since I play the english, short version of Snatcher, I feel like SD Snatcher is to Snatcher what Anime are to books. Very good but some dimensions are missing.
Beside that, good job guys.
Thank!

Of course there is some dimensions missing, but on the other hand many fun and playable dimensions are added, which were lacking on the original Snatcher. Because of that, both games offer enjoyable experiences on different levels and should be seen as two sides of the same coin, both as important as other.

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1803)

03-01-2014, 19:38

Just managed to patch the game disks (not as trivial as you'd think, on a Mac I had to try 3 different programs before I found one that worked). Only watched the intro so far, but it's pretty sweet and definately adds a lot of detail to the game.

Great job!

Par sd_snatcher

Prophet (3675)

03-01-2014, 20:16

A masterpiece translation for a masterpiece game. It is worth every penny! Kudos for Team Melancholia!

Please keep high quality translations like this coming!

Par Maggoo

Paragon (1218)

03-01-2014, 20:26

Glad to finally play this great game in English. Little problem tho: I'm escaping the warehouse through the Windows at the very beginning of the game.... and then nothing happens. I hear the ticking timebomb and the enemies are moving around... I can open the inventory/status window etc but I cannot see the main character or move... Am I missing something?

Par Creepy

Champion (335)

03-01-2014, 22:03

The only (small) problem I seem to be having is that the level music stops after saving (when changing levels or when starting a fight, the music starts again). But other then that: wow! What a great translation.

Par Edwin

Paragon (1182)

03-01-2014, 22:26

Has anybody tried it with a Playsoniq as SCC-I? The standard cracked version detects it just fine, but this patch won't detect it at all. Not that it matters too much, because it locks up after the sound chip selection.

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

03-01-2014, 22:39

@ Edwin: I did tried on Playsoniq and its works OK on most configurastions. But you need to run normal version, not the mapper version. So it will work as original SCC-I cartridge and use 64KB of its memory (even Playsoniq have 512KB there). The mapper version works too, but only if you play on computer without memory mapper (like regular MSX2+ with 64KB of RAM). So PlaySoniq memory mapper will work and SCC-I will work. But I don't see the point to use mapper version even on 64KB MSX system, because PlaySoniq have like "orignal" SCC-I + RAM inside. The only configuration when PlaySoniq will lock up is when you play on system with memory mapper (Turbo-R, for example). The lock up happens because of 2 memory mappers present in the system.

Par Creepy

Champion (335)

03-01-2014, 22:41

The game wont detect the SCC in the playsoniq. But it will detect it if you configure the playsoniq to put the SCC in an unexpanded slot. This way the game runs with SCC music from the playsoniq. The detection still seems off, since it detects the SCC in SLOT 2-1, 2-2 and 2-3
(I'm using the mapper version)

And this is weird: when using the playsoniq as SCC the music restarts playing after saving. When using the SCC from the SCC+SD it wont.

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

03-01-2014, 22:42

@ Maggoo: I believe sd_snatcher had a similar issue with demo version. But we was never able to replicate it. And you are the second person to have it. Could you please provide your configuration and when exactly you jump of the window, so we can try to understand if problem with the patch or the source version of SD Snatcher that you using to patch it.

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

03-01-2014, 22:50

@ Creepy: I had same issue, but if you reset computer it will detect it on second re-start. I don't know why, maybe something needs to be changed in Playsoniq configuration or delay on original reset is not enough. I will investigate more on that. But with all other cartridges it will detect SCC in any slot/sub-slot without any issues.

Par Creepy

Champion (335)

03-01-2014, 22:54

I've tried the normal version now and it works like a charm with the playsoniq.

Par Edwin

Paragon (1182)

03-01-2014, 22:56

max_iwamoto: thanks! I'll try that or Creepy's suggestion. It's probably on the 16MB in a single slot configuration.

Par Edwin

Paragon (1182)

03-01-2014, 23:35

Works for me too! So now you won't be hearing from me anytime soon

Par Maggoo

Paragon (1218)

04-01-2014, 01:26

@ max_iwamoto: I was using the configuration MSX2 - Japanese on BlueMSX with 512K of RAM and SCC-I in Slot 1. Apparently the problem comes from the configuration because I switched to TurboR emulation and it works just fine.
The problem occured after the sequence where you find the bomb. I tried to run out of the building and it just got stuck there.

Anyhow, great job !

Par Sander

Founder (1872)

04-01-2014, 12:57

Thnx guys for this release!!!

Par TheWhipMaster

Expert (120)

04-01-2014, 17:14

I m playing on de1 and I have tested on fs5500 , mb-h70 and gt and it work really well!
I m so happy to play a version where I understand everything ....
Just a question out of the blue does the project team plan to do an ips for the paper manual

By the way for the next translation I vote :
1: Dragon slayer 6
2: fray ( all xak would be great though )

Par meits

Scribe (6573)

04-01-2014, 17:29

Fray (be it turbo R version) is already in the pipe line...

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

04-01-2014, 17:38

Meits wrote:

Fray (be it turbo R version) is already in the pipe line...

And also Randar III

Par Guillian

Prophet (3529)

04-01-2014, 17:46

I have finished the game today. What a nice translation!
I noticed the music problem Creepy mentioned. I used a real SD Snatcher Sound Cartridge for the sound/RAM and MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD for loading the DSKs.

Par Edwin

Paragon (1182)

04-01-2014, 18:07

It's been ages since I played SD Snatcher, but I think it's quite strange that it makes no noticeable difference whether I shoot with a "Hand blaster" or a "Blackhawk". Even though the latter is supposed to be much more powerful. Is this normal?

Par Moniz

Champion (401)

04-01-2014, 18:11

Beer: check!
Sigarettes: check!
Comfy chair: check!

Ready for the Elijah demo!

P.s: My vote (as we even have a vote.. its up to them what they want to translate) would go to a game that hasnt been translated yet.. (Randar 3, Illusion city etc..)

Par Latok

msx guru (3960)

04-01-2014, 18:14

So uhm, any chance for a hint how to have infinite money?!

Par Sama

Ambassador (2070)

04-01-2014, 18:15

@TheWhipMaster: I don't think we will make a retranslation of Dragon Slayer VI. In order to check the quality of the Oasis translation of that game, I played the game in Japanese two or three years ago and I found that the Oasis translation of that game is actually relatively accurate. Therefore, I think the effort that would be needed to retranslate the game would not translate itself into the merit of having a more accurate translation. This was totally different for SD Snatcher.

As for Fray, Max and Tsunami are still working on their English translation of Fray MSX Turbo R.

Xak 1 was translated by me in cooperation with Sonic_aka_T for WOOMB, so that game doesn't need a (re)translation either (it just needs to be rereleased ).

Xak 2 and Tower of Gazzel certainly are titles that might be worth the effort of retranslating.

Par Sama

Ambassador (2070)

04-01-2014, 18:25

Edwin wrote:

It's been ages since I played SD Snatcher, but I think it's quite strange that it makes no noticeable difference whether I shoot with a "Hand blaster" or a "Blackhawk". Even though the latter is supposed to be much more powerful. Is this normal?

Keep in mind that you need to use weapons in order to train your skill with them. You can see the skill level (varying from 0 to 100%) of your weapon in the inventory screen.

That said, I don't believe there's much difference between the weapons when it comes to strength (neither is there in the original). There is a difference in range (1, 4, 6 or 9 shots) and in type (blaster, laser, fire). Some enemies are strong against certain types of weapons and weak against other.

Par d-fader

Champion (293)

04-01-2014, 19:07

@latok: http://www.msx.org/news/software/en/sd-snatcher-save-game-ed... :)

Weapons, Options, Drugs and Money are working flawlessly, but I'm experiencing some strange values when you change character stats, but I guess that's just because I don't know how the data is stored ^^

Par TheWhipMaster

Expert (120)

04-01-2014, 19:34

@sama , actually I would be very cool to see the woomb translation be available

Par Latok

msx guru (3960)

04-01-2014, 19:38

@d-fader: many kudos!!

Par Moniz

Champion (401)

04-01-2014, 20:36

Sama wrote:

@TheWhipMaster: I don't think we will make a retranslation of Dragon Slayer VI. In order to check the quality of the Oasis translation of that game, I played the game in Japanese two or three years ago and I found that the Oasis translation of that game is actually relatively accurate. Therefore, I think the effort that would be needed to retranslate the game would not translate itself into the merit of having a more accurate translation. This was totally different for SD Snatcher.

Dragon Slager 6 has had an official localization anyway for the Turbograpx CD. It quite good! (I hope someone will translate the direct sequel Legend of Heroes 2 though.. but thats not for this forum...)

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5684)

05-01-2014, 00:20

@ Moniz: "Draken Slager".
(sorry, Dutch joke)

Par Moniz

Champion (401)

05-01-2014, 00:45

JohnHassink wrote:

@ Moniz: "Draken Slager".
(sorry, Dutch joke)

Par Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1803)

05-01-2014, 00:49

JohnHassink wrote:

@ Moniz: "Draken Slager".
(sorry, Dutch joke)

Still beats een draak van een schlager though

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

05-01-2014, 04:37

@ TheWhipMaster: Fray TR is already fully re-translated, but patching is not done for all disks. Here is the video of the first village of Fray TR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLQ3tjGAe0g

@ Moniz: In Randar III 2 villages and one cave is already translated, but it's till very long way to go.

@ Maggoo: BiFi was able to replicate your issue on real MSX with original version. Here is the video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGkT7iDmEoo

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

05-01-2014, 04:55

Few people posted their set-up of how they playing the translation:

http://i.imgur.com/imob116.jpg
http://www.mobypicture.com/user/Artemio/view/16420008

I think it's a nice initiative. If you want to post your configuration on how you playing, you can post it here or in http://www.project-melancholia.org/guestbook.html

We may even create a special page on the website to show all of them.

Par Randam

Paragon (1431)

05-01-2014, 09:02

Very nice retranslation! Great work!

Par Imanok

Paragon (1200)

05-01-2014, 14:46

First of all, congratulations for this great translation! It's evident you put a lot of love and effort to make this one

I'm having some problems trying to make it work on my TR-GT using Padial's SDMMC interface and its disk emulation tools. Both intros work fine, but when the second intro finishes and the MSX switches to R800, it loads a little bit and that's all (the screen stays black).

I also downloaded and tried RUNIT, but intro music gets a bit corrupted and I can't pass from the screen where you enter your name.

Has anybody with a TR managed to play it with any disk emulator tool?

BTW, it works ok loading from floppy.

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

05-01-2014, 16:04

@Imanok: The patch probably needs a correct disk image to work properly. I have TR and use Runit from Sunrise CF card and game seems to work ok, allthough there is the graphic glitch on the name input screen. Music also get sometimes corrupted at the start, but it goes away if I first load the game to the start menu from the disk and then reset the game and start from Runit. I know, that's some unnecessary work, as I haven't yet managed to make disk images of my original disks, but at least I have it working.

Par Imanok

Paragon (1200)

05-01-2014, 18:09

I solved it! ... there's some kind of bad interaction with the Padial's SDMMC interface running at R800 speed and the original Snatcher SCC+ cartridge inserted. I tried patching the game with the 128Kb RAM patch and it works like a charm with a normal SCC and the Megaflashrom SCC+

Par Vampier

Prophet (2415)

06-01-2014, 07:28

just ordered it

Par mesiasmsx

Prophet (3455)

07-01-2014, 12:20

I have my patch!

Thanks for this work guys!!

Par SkyeWelse

Champion (471)

07-01-2014, 15:24

Thanks for the patch Max and Sama. : ) I'm really looking forward to playing through it someday soon when I get settled down and have some free time. I just finished moving recently, so all of my MSX stuff is all packed up in boxes at the moment.

It might be easiest for me to try setting it up on my Zemmix Neo first. Anyone have any luck with getting the disks to work using the Zemmix Neo yet? I remember running into some issues before when trying to load Xak disks using the MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD.

Nice to see you all again. I've not been around here in awhile! : 0

-Thomas

Par OeiOeiVogeltje

Paragon (1438)

07-01-2014, 16:12

it works with a orginal Sharksym interface and a orignal SD Snatcher soundcart too

Par mesiasmsx

Prophet (3455)

07-01-2014, 20:54

I´m playing in my ST with Megaflash SD SCCI

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

08-01-2014, 13:51

What can I say? Awesome, awesome, awesome and... oh yes... AWESOME!

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

08-01-2014, 15:12

Does anyone else have the obsession to harass Benson of his painting over and over again? I find it myself very satisfying.

I needed a little breather as I missed some candles in the church, but got it right by the second time (and I hate the combination of narrow corridors and metal creatures). Now I'm on the roll again!

Par Moniz

Champion (401)

08-01-2014, 22:15

Yep, can't keep myself from "touching" the painting everytime I'm there

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

08-01-2014, 22:57

Isn't it awesome that around the world a relatively significant amount of MSX fans is playing the same game, re-enjoying one of the best MSX games ever?

Par Sama

Ambassador (2070)

09-01-2014, 00:52

Obviously we would very much appreciate comments on the translation itself as well! How did it feel to play the game with our translation? Were there any surprises? How was your experience?

Par snout

Ascended (15187)

09-01-2014, 01:02

Just started playing it and, well, everything just falls better into place now. The atmosphere is also a lot better. Other than that, I don't think anyone is really waiting for spoilers here, so... euhm... job very well done.

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

09-01-2014, 15:41

I finished the game in 1993-5 . Only found the bug from the music after saves (not after shaves ) states and one moment corrupt graphics in factory place, but im solve with a load state.

I appreciate much the new translating. Its very nice! 10 Euros in a good inversion

I preffer than better Fray, Rune Worth, Xak II retranslation,Angelus,Psy-o-blade,Dragon Quest or other´s

Thank you very much!

Par sd_snatcher

Prophet (3675)

11-01-2014, 22:17

@max_iwamoto

I've found a bug. It's nothing serious, but the game doesn't run on the NEOS-MA20 anymore.

The original SD-Snatcher was able to run on this nifty extension.

Par msd

Paragon (1532)

12-01-2014, 12:30

Great stuff dudes. !! Love playing it again.

Par msd

Paragon (1532)

12-01-2014, 15:37

The ticket buy bug is not finished . Btw any idea why in the queen basement there are stairs in the wall? Close to the 4 corpses (and one snatcher)

Par msd

Paragon (1532)

12-01-2014, 17:06

Finished? I mean fixed.

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

12-01-2014, 17:44

@ sd_snatcher: Thank you for finding the bug. We will add it to the list of knows issues. Would be nice to find this device or at least have an openMSX emulation for it to be able to fix the issue.

@msd: We left ticked buying bug on propose. We looking at it as original game cheat. I know where it located in the script, so it is possible to release optional patch. Also very interesting find about stairs, I never noticed that. I will check if they lead anywhere.

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5684)

12-01-2014, 18:32

What is the ticket buy bug?

Par msd

Paragon (1532)

12-01-2014, 18:49

You will get 65xxx$ when you buy a ticket at the cinema and you have less than 100$

Par Randam

Paragon (1431)

12-01-2014, 19:08

@MSD and Max_Iwamoto: I had noticed the stairway "in the wall" in Queen Hospital. The thing is from the sewers you climb up to ground level (dark floor). And from there you go down to the basement where you find what you came to find. The sewers are below the basement. That is why you can see stairway in the basement. It's the one leading up from the sewers to the dark part.

Par msd

Paragon (1532)

12-01-2014, 19:57

@ramdam : that makes sense.

Par Randam

Paragon (1431)

12-01-2014, 20:30

@MSD I should know: I was there Judging you from your avatar you were too

Par black hawk

Expert (124)

12-01-2014, 23:42

After a long time of waiting ... here it is! Playing this retranslated game again makes so much fun. Thank you for your engagement and I hope that many many MSX lovers will buy this patch.

Par Guillian

Prophet (3529)

13-01-2014, 10:37

Don't miss the texts at Survival World (the castle in Syd Garden) They are somehow... disturbing ^^!

Par Manuel

Ascended (19683)

13-01-2014, 18:05

max_iwamoto wrote:

Would be nice to find this device or at least have an openMSX emulation for it to be able to fix the issue.

Check the openMSX 0.10.0 release notes

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

13-01-2014, 20:18

Guillian wrote:

Don't miss the texts at Survival World (the castle in Syd Garden) They are somehow... disturbing ^^!

BTW, did you saw the text with the guy asking you to visit his daughter? So, they planned to have Survival World open originally, and somehow decided to close it at the last moment. But the message with the girl stayed.

Also one of the NCP's suppose to show player text about hidden stage, but they also removed it at the end from the script, but left it on the disk. We translated it and also left it there, so anybody could see it if look from the disk viewer. Some other scripts also had unused texts, but nothing special. We maybe post them on special section of the website.

Also there is 2 texts in "Abandoned Factory" that we were unable to trigger even they presented in the script. Based on those texts you should be able to see Randam there. Based on the script it should happen after you saw him at Baran's Apartment, but before you go to the casino. So, if anybody manage to see it, please let us know. Thanks.

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

13-01-2014, 20:18

Manuel wrote:

max_iwamoto wrote:

Would be nice to find this device or at least have an openMSX emulation for it to be able to fix the issue.

Check the openMSX 0.10.0 release notes

Is it already there? Woow! I should start reading manual before using programs

Par Oscar

Guardian (587)

13-01-2014, 20:20

Cool translation!

I have the same issue as Moniz, when I reach little John there is not the robots around him, moving in circles. Maybe it will be an patch upgrade? Anyway nice translation

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

13-01-2014, 21:27

@ Oscar: Thanks. We will have another look at John's situation.

Par msd

Paragon (1532)

16-01-2014, 21:43

Finished , now what to do :-p .

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5684)

17-01-2014, 00:11

Play the Sega CD version of Snatcher?

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

17-01-2014, 09:38

MSX version of Snatcher is still better to play than Sega.

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5684)

17-01-2014, 13:13

Why that? The MSX version was not even finished. The only advantage I see is SCC music.

Par Akiguchi

Hero (623)

17-01-2014, 20:19

If you try the MSX version with Turbo R and load it from some harddrive, it's actually very playable and smooth. I'm also not very fond of the english dubs on the Sega-version. Better to leave them for your imagination. Many great games have been ruined by terrible voice-acting, when they could have been just left silent.

I think MSX graphics and SCC sounds adds more old-schoolish feeling to it than the advanced Sega ones. Also, if it has any meaning, it is the original version (along with PC-88) afterall.

Par JohnHassink

Ambassador (5684)

18-01-2014, 03:38

Yeah, but the story is not finished, dude! I take it from your comment that you have at least tried the Sega CD version. I didn't think the voice acting was that bad. To me, it's actually the finished version - contrary to the PC-88 and MSX2 versions.
But, it's still a great game, no matter which platform you play it on, but I prefer a finished story (and I like how it differs from SD Snatcher at vital points).

Par msxtrd

Champion (277)

20-01-2014, 20:29

Jorito wrote:

Just managed to patch the game disks (not as trivial as you'd think, on a Mac I had to try 3 different programs before I found one that worked). Only watched the intro so far, but it's pretty sweet and definately adds a lot of detail to the game.

Great job!

What app did you use? =)

Par Samor

Prophet (2222)

21-01-2014, 16:12

I preferred the Sega CD version of Snatcher (played both). Chapter 3 felt rushed, though, unlike SDS, where it's pretty lengthy.
I still have to try the translation, will probably do so soon

Par Jupp3

Resident (41)

05-02-2014, 21:52

Quote:

Has anybody tried it with a Playsoniq as SCC-I? The standard cracked version detects it just fine, but this patch won't detect it at all.

On my 8255 (with MSX2+ gfx chip), SCC in Playsoniq gets recognized, but only rarely. Haven't tried the other version yet though... Probably that helps.

Par anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

05-02-2014, 23:28

msxtrd wrote:

Jorito wrote:

Just managed to patch the game disks (not as trivial as you'd think, on a Mac I had to try 3 different programs before I found one that worked). Only watched the intro so far, but it's pretty sweet and definately adds a lot of detail to the game.

Great job!

What app did you use? =)

Some very simple commandline tool that did the job. Forgot the name, but let me know if you need it.

Par sd_snatcher

Prophet (3675)

06-02-2014, 01:08

I used uips on the Mac, and it works like a charm. You can get it here.

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (6561)

06-02-2014, 01:49

Here is a Mac OS X port of UIPS if you want to avoid the command line :

http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/20/

For Windows users, the best options are IPSEXE and Lunar IPS.

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

06-02-2014, 03:54

@ Jupp3: Please look up in this tread. You will see comments from Edwin and my answer to him. In short, use IPS patch for original version with SCC-I cartridge. Do not use mapper version with Playsoniq. It will not working properly on MSX systems with 2 mappers.

Par Jupp3

Resident (41)

06-02-2014, 13:08

Quote:

Please look up in this tread.

Already noticed that. That's what I referred to with "trying the other version". Just thought to point out that it still DOES work - only rarely. In case that might help.

Par The_Engineer

Han (194)

24-02-2014, 23:35

Finally started playing on my real MSX Turbo R with the Megaflashrom SCC+SD. Disks are in flashrom; saving on real floppy disk. Excellent experience! Great job for the team!

Two minor comments:
1) I also encounter the "no music" bug after saving on the user disk (same as what Creepy reported).
The sound effects are still playing, but it looks as if the music start command is somehow skipped.
When playing from the real disk drive (with only a default SCC plugged), this is never happening.
2) The initial text menu only allows control by the keyboard. I play the game with joystick (The Arcade), so would it be possible to also add jostick port 1 support? The game also has full support for joystick port 1; joystick port 2 is ignored.

And two questions:
1) How are you planning to release patches?
2) As many people before pointed out: I would love to see a translated manual!

And to comment to Sama's request on the experience:
I am amazed how many hints the game actually gave you on what to do and where to go next. Quite a difference from the summer of 1990 when you endlessly wandered around until something changed and you finally could progress.

Par mars2000you

Enlighted (6561)

15-05-2016, 01:21

The complete maps of Sd-Snatcher, based on the Project Melancholia English translation, are now available on MSX Eggerland (and later they will also available on MRC).

The zipped package includes 3 files :

- part 1 is from the beginning to South Downtown included
- part 2 is North Downtown and Queen Area
- part 3 is Syd Garden (including the hidden Survival World) and Snatchers Base

Enjoy !

http://eggerland.msxblue.com/

Par Atjantis

Master (200)

27-06-2017, 12:11

I have ordered from the website, performed the payment, and no response from project-melancholia....

I have sent two mails to the contact mail account... no response....

What should I do?

Par hamlet

Scribe (4106)

27-06-2017, 17:21

There is still some one alive. Respond to my order tooked three days with a nice excuse. So don't worry.

Par Feiraco

Master (140)

16-08-2018, 11:52

Guys, this project that you did is definitely a masterwork!
Absolutely fantastisc!! Thanks a lot. Like many, I played the game in the early 1990s and never finished it. I recall because of all the Japanese. Looking back to many Japanese games of those days, it's a shame playing such fantastic games without really knowing what is happening. I had the same threill with the Legend of Heroes translation. Both games are in my all-time top 5.

Thanks again guys! You truelly contributed something special to the MSX legacy.

Quote:

Little problem tho: I'm escaping the warehouse through the Windows at the very beginning of the game.... and then nothing happens. I hear the ticking timebomb and the enemies are moving around... I can open the inventory/status window etc but I cannot see the main character or move... Am I missing something?

I experienced this as well. I played the game on the blueMSX emulator with TurboR config. I solved it by loading a previous save game and then it worked.

Quote:

Does anyone else have the obsession to harass Benson of his painting over and over again? I find it myself very satisfying.

I also apparently have that obsession

Par Feiraco

Master (140)

16-08-2018, 11:53

By the way, my official order of the translation worked perfectly well. So people, if you haven't played SD Snatcher yet, please do so by acquiting this fantastic game.

Max & Sama, are you guys working on anything lately?

Par roadfighter

Champion (467)

18-08-2018, 09:05

Feiraco wrote:

.........., please do so by acquiting this fantastic game............

I think Feiraco meant, acquiring ? And keep in mind, you will buy a translation not the game!

Anny how, the translation is really great work and makes the game very playable indeed.
For those who want to order the translation , Please keep in mind that the hobbyist behind this great work have a live to and give them at least 5 days to respond. They will respond !
I played the game with a lot of fun and it reveals a lot more info in the game play.
More important, the story makes sens.

Greetings,

Emil Sokolowski

Par KdL

Paragon (1485)

27-07-2019, 16:03

Hi! I noticed a missing gunshot in YouTube of Project Melancholia. Is it also in the final release?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7_c3MyIbQ&feature=youtu.be... >> 3' 48"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWOD6TKw_UA&feature=youtu.be... >> 3' 36"

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

28-07-2019, 19:44

KdL wrote:

Hi! I noticed a missing gunshot in YouTube of Project Melancholia. Is it also in the final release?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7_c3MyIbQ&feature=youtu.be... >> 3' 48"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWOD6TKw_UA&feature=youtu.be... >> 3' 36"

Nice find. Will check the final version.

Par tfh

Prophet (3430)

07-11-2019, 12:57

And now you can download the Project Melancholia patch for free:
https://www.project-melancholia.org/downloads.html

Par Grauw

Ascended (10821)

07-11-2019, 21:30

That's a very nice gesture! Props!

Par gdx

Enlighted (6438)

08-11-2019, 00:12

I have never played this game. This is an opportunity to start. Thanks.

Par Zandig Slaytanic

Resident (44)

08-11-2019, 13:48

Played a bit of the Oasis translation many years back. Going to have a revisit with the Project Melancholia translation. From the above comments I'm looking forward to it. Thank you for making the final release/full patch available for all to try.

Par alexito

Paladin (761)

08-11-2019, 20:40

Thanks, very appreciated. Never played. This will be a good chance for me testing this famous game in my infamous MSX Computer (Victor HC-95)

Par GreyFoxNL

Rookie (23)

02-01-2022, 22:10

This is great version and i played it on my msx2+ a couple of times allready.
One question though. I recently got a TurboR ST and when i try to play this version on my MFR there is no sound.
The menu in the beginning recognizes the SCC+ but there is no sound in the game.
When i plug in the MFR in my 2+ without changing anything the sound works just fine.
What am i missing here ?

Par GreyFoxNL

Rookie (23)

02-01-2022, 22:40

I got it allready thanks to our MSX wizard Guillian Seed
Keep shift pressed while starting on TurboR !!!!

Par Latok

msx guru (3960)

02-01-2022, 23:29

what does shift pressing do?

Par Grauw

Ascended (10821)

02-01-2022, 23:48

Quote Nextor user's manual:

Quote:

SHIFT: Prevent MSX-DOS kernels from booting, but allow Nextor kernels to boot normally. This is useful to disable the internal floppy disk drive in order to get some extra TPA memory, especially in MSX-DOS 1 mode.

Par Latok

msx guru (3960)

03-01-2022, 11:26

Sorry, let me rephrase my question as I know presssing shift prevents MSX-DOS kernel from booting: why does shift pressing affect the SCC sound in turboR?

Par ro

Scribe (5061)

03-01-2022, 16:09

reading back the news post text, I'm frowning on the missing context. I mean, it's just a list of features while it should scream "Haleeeluuuhjaaaaaa, SD Snatcher has been pimped" with proper texts. Oh well, that was 2014. right?!

Par Latok

msx guru (3960)

03-01-2022, 17:14

I think because of the context back then, this posting was sufficient. The project had been praised in several postings (and meetings, Event Eleven anyone?!) before this one, don't you think?

Par Grauw

Ascended (10821)

03-01-2022, 18:30

Latok wrote:

Sorry, let me rephrase my question as I know presssing shift prevents MSX-DOS kernel from booting: why does shift pressing affect the SCC sound in turboR?

It seems like the SCC player needs memory in the upper memory region which is not available when too many drives are present. I suppose it’s lucky that only the music stops working and the game doesn’t outright crash.

Par Latok

msx guru (3960)

03-01-2022, 20:07

Thx Grauw. And this occurs only on turboR.... There is less upper memory available than on MSX2?

Par max_iwamoto

Paladin (674)

03-01-2022, 22:41

Latok wrote:

Thx Grauw. And this occurs only on turboR.... There is less upper memory available than on MSX2?

Yes, it is less. Only few bytes, but they make a big deference. I am actually having
similar issue with another game I am working on right now. It crashes when music enabled
On Turbo-R. So it would be very interesting to find out why music is affected.

In case of SD-Snatcher, player located in 4000h-BFFFh area as it stored inside
the extra RAM of the SD-Snatcher cartridge. So player itself definitely not affected. Possibly variable that responsible for music
is located in the affected area. But I doubt it too since most variables located lower.

Par Grauw

Ascended (10821)

03-01-2022, 23:40

Latok wrote:

Thx Grauw. And this occurs only on turboR.... There is less upper memory available than on MSX2?

Dunno, there could be several variables. GreyFoxNL said he plugged the MFR into his 2+, maybe it is a Sanyo PHC-35J which has no built-in drives. Additionally, a turboR has DOS2 built-in while other MSX-es don’t. Lastly, different DiskROM versions may use slightly different amounts of memory.

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