What should the one chip MSX look like?

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By wolf_

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02-11-2004, 17:46

Well, I'd vote for an ATX layout, then we can decide ourself if we want a minitower, bigtower, desktop model, 19" rack etc. etc. The ppl who already have their current msx in a pc-case prolly did that for the comfort/expansionspace .. so let's not underestimate that..

By tfh

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02-11-2004, 18:15

Well, I'd vote for an ATX layout, then we can decide ourself if we want a minitower, bigtower, desktop model, 19" rack etc. etc. The ppl who already have their current msx in a pc-case prolly did that for the comfort/expansionspace .. so let's not underestimate that..

Or. To be a bit more prepared for the future, BTX or MicroBTX should be the solution The ATX standard should be replaced by BTX next year, if Intel has it's way Wink It would be a shame to make an ATX version, and have to change everything again next year Smile

By anonymous

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02-11-2004, 19:23

I prefer a small desktop case, like the gamereader. I wouldn't want to use a PC case for an MSX! Even an ITX case is often much too large, and this thing most likely won't need any cooling... And such large cases are shitty to carry around. Even my Shuttle XPC is still big...

Besides, I'd want ppl to KNOW I'm using an MSX Smile

By sunrise

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02-11-2004, 20:07

Guyver and latok many times predicted to have a case with cool design.
That is the best solution ofcourse.
Cause you donot want a pc but a msx.
Itx well I think even with the cartrdigeslots is possible , look e.g. to the pci risercard option. This gives a height of 2.6 and a width of 110 mm whcih is almost exact a cartridgeslot, But that solves only a one slotconnection.
Dual would mean a dual risercard. If so the case would be too expensive but not too big .
But guyver ,tell us what find big as regards size taken into account the measures I gave of 17cm by 13 cm for the pcb.
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By anonymous

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02-11-2004, 20:11

The height is the biggest issue in PC's.. the base surface size is less important. For example, a 20x20x5 cm case would be fine, IMO.

By Ivan

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02-11-2004, 20:38

What about this design with the 2 cartridge slots on top and the I/O connectors at the bottom and only one button to eject both cartridges?

www.e-katalog.ru/jpg/1409.jpg

By anonymous

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02-11-2004, 20:53

And that after I complained about height Wink

By wolf_

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02-11-2004, 20:53

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By snout

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02-11-2004, 21:29

Just cut it in half! Smile One Chip Toaster! Smile

TFH: What makes you so sure that ASCII won't spend such an amount of money on an MSX case btw? They did design and produce an (imho) extremely cool MSX Game Reader case as well, and for the past 3 to 4 years they have been investigating and experiencing how big the MSX market (still) market is and what its potential is. The huge success of Project EGG, MSX Magazines, the GameReaded, MSX-BASIC for Robo Education (perhaps they have already sold a fair amount of One Chip MSXes to schools) and to a lesser extent even the gadget MSXPC made them confident enough to at least give the green lights to the One Chip MSX project. Knowing the Japanese, I think they -will- create a specially designed One Chip MSX casing.

By tfh

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02-11-2004, 21:46

Just cut it in half! Smile One Chip Toaster! Smile

TFH: What makes you so sure that ASCII won't spend such an amount of money on an MSX case btw? They did design and produce an (imho) extremely cool MSX Game Reader case as well, and for the past 3 to 4 years they have been investigating and experiencing how big the MSX market (still) market is and what its potential is. The huge success of Project EGG, MSX Magazines, the GameReaded, MSX-BASIC for Robo Education (perhaps they have already sold a fair amount of One Chip MSXes to schools) and to a lesser extent even the gadget MSXPC made them confident enough to at least give the green lights to the One Chip MSX project. Knowing the Japanese, I think they -will- create a specially designed One Chip MSX casing.

Snout, well.. I know what it costs to make something like that. You need to sell a considerable quantity to make it cost effective to earn your money back, or even make some profit in the end. This is also the reason why they used an existing system to make that MSX-PC thingie last year.
On the other hand, I might be overestimating the complexity of the chassis they need. If it's only going to be a small box to hold the board, it will not be that expensive. But if you also want to have room for expansion, like optical drives, hdd's, maybe even some form of ISA/PCI like expansion slots, well.. Then it is going to be quite an expensive venture.
I have had quite some companies nocking on our door, thinking making their would be "easy" Smile
On the other hand, ASCII is not a small company and probably knows very well what it's doing.

Anyway, what is you guess: If this all works out and ASCII will start selling the OneChipMSX commercially.. What kind of volume do you think would be realistic? 1000? 10.000? 100.000? In to the millions?

Anyway, let's see where all this is going. Can't wait untill it's March Smile

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