What should the one chip MSX look like?

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By tfh

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02-11-2004, 07:24

19" rackmodel
with @ the front side: usb, on/off, reset
and @ the backside: audio i/o, video out etc. .. in short, stuff that doesn't change often.. (audio goes through a patchpanel here)

This way it I can place it between my other stuff.. perhaps not in my actual rack, but in a custom-built workspace/desktop I'm planning.

Or otherwise a normal case of the same size with optional rack-ears.. but you can get computercases in 19" format anyway.. (typically servers and audio-computers) why not take advantage of that?

Well, this would be a nice option,. but if you also want this thing to be succesfull in the home market, 19" is not the way to go.
Give the board an MicroATX or PiceBTX lay-out (Or even ITX?) so it can fit a normal PC chassis. We would only have to find a way to solve the cartridge slot issue Wink
On the other hand.. you can also develop a complete new chassis for the MSX, but this would require a certain quantity to make it feasible.

By snout

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02-11-2004, 07:25

Let me rephrase things then: Lets assume the quantity of One Chip Computers produced is (more than) enough to make a custom MSX chassis feasible: what kind of casing would you like it to have?

By Sonic_aka_T

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02-11-2004, 09:19

Hmmm.... Well, as far is nostalgia is concerned, you'll prolly wanna stuff the whole thing in a big keyboard again. In practice tho, I wonder if a desktop might perhaps be more practical. We should've made a challenge out of this tho... Wink

By Samor

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02-11-2004, 09:31

I prefer a tiny desktop case Wink

By tfh

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02-11-2004, 09:55

I prefer a tiny desktop case Wink

How about this: http://www.pa-dm.com/products/pa-170.html
or something similar? :) Or is that too small?
Mayb this is better: http://www.pa-dm.com/products/pa-370.html, combined with the optional LCD Display as seen on the main site: http://www.pa-dm.com ?

Regards,

TFH

By snout

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02-11-2004, 09:58

To be honest, I think those casings are still not small enough ^_^. I'd rather have a casing similar to the MSX Game Reader. It doesn't have to have a keyboard (some cool lets would rule, of course), and it would be a bit larger due to the second cartridge slot, but... I like the flat 'homecomputer' look ;)

By tfh

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02-11-2004, 10:38

To be honest, I think those casings are still not small enough ^_^. I'd rather have a casing similar to the MSX Game Reader. It doesn't have to have a keyboard (some cool lets would rule, of course), and it would be a bit larger due to the second cartridge slot, but... I like the flat 'homecomputer' look ;)

Well, don't you want to have some integrated devices like a HD, floppy or maybe even an optival drive?
Well, we can make anything you want, so ;)

By Samor

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02-11-2004, 10:40

actually yeah, like the first one you posted. nice & small case Smile

By sunrise

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02-11-2004, 11:37

TFH, indeed a iTX casing is an option. The PA-170 is suitable since the PCB is 17 cm by 13 cm. I know since sunrise has an earlier prototype and it seems to have the same size and even if is a little bigger it will still fit.
But the prices will not make it a relatively cheap computer.
If you had also to buy the sd card and a keyboard ...

I see that many questions remain unanswered. So a poll at this moment
looks premature.
And based on experiences with old prototype and the usb-gamereader japanese it might be that an external FM-pac or Moonsound will not work in the cartridgeslot since the plus 12v and minus 12v are lacking. So, I hope that they solve that before putting it on the European market.

By tfh

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02-11-2004, 17:24

TFH, indeed a iTX casing is an option. The PA-170 is suitable since the PCB is 17 cm by 13 cm. I know since sunrise has an earlier prototype and it seems to have the same size and even if is a little bigger it will still fit.
But the prices will not make it a relatively cheap computer.
If you had also to buy the sd card and a keyboard ...

I see that many questions remain unanswered. So a poll at this moment
looks premature.
And based on experiences with old prototype and the usb-gamereader japanese it might be that an external FM-pac or Moonsound will not work in the cartridgeslot since the plus 12v and minus 12v are lacking. So, I hope that they solve that before putting it on the European market.

Hi Sunrise,

Well.. the problem is of course that the One Chip MSX system will not fit into any standard chassis that is available, due to the cartridge slot issue. Other connectors would be no problem as you can use the standard I/O panels for that.
Designing and tooling a new chassis will probably be out of the questions, as this can easily cost around US$ 100.000,- ~ US$ 200.000,-, depending on how many parts the chassis would be and the size of it, and I don't see ASCII spending that kind of money yet, not knowing what the market would be.
Another option would be a standard ATX chassis, and make a cardreader-like-part, which you can mount in a 5.25" bay, where you can put the Cartridges. You could combine this with other MultiMedia cards and the USB connection of course. This way, you could just make a standard kit of parts, so you can put your OneChipMSX into any (Micro-)ATX-type chassis.

LOL Smile Maybe I should discuss this with our Engineers Wink Pass them the info and tell them to contact ASCII...

Ah well, time to make some dinner first Smile

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