Thoughts about an OS

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By jalu

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06-01-2003, 21:21

Well it doesn't HAVE to be multitasking all the time. Look at Amiga, there was a very good multitasking system, however, for games/demos, etc... It was possible to take over the entire system and access hardware directly...

3D Multitasking Basic prompt would be cool indeed Smile

Well, let's hope a possible multitasking MSXOS (hey, has a nice ring just like that Smile ) will be MUCH more stable than AmigaOS...Tongue

(sorry, old habits never die Wink )

By anonymous

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07-01-2003, 03:36

One of the less user-friendly things about Linux is its installation procedure, finding drivers etc etc... This problem would not plague the new MSX, because it's standardized and thus doesn't need to support 1000 different kinds graphics hardware, 50 different network interfaces, etc etc...

Besides, you won't run Linux most of the time, you will run Intent/Elate.

By konamiman

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07-01-2003, 10:16

Multitasking? Linux? Horreur! I want a new MSX, not another PC!!

If you ask me about a new MSX, I think it should be like the old ones, but with faster processor and linear memory (Z380?), and some of the already existing peripherals built-in (say gfx9000, moonsound, IDE, SCSI). Oh, and a few MB RAM by defualt would be nice too.

And if you ask me about a new OS, I think it should be DOS 2 plus some addendum: more accurate memory management (say NestorMan), proper TSR capability (say MemMan), and the possibility to tie drive letters to given device drivers and file system drivers (say FAT16 and CD ROM extensions, user created RAM disk...)

Yeah, a little too conservative maybe, but it its just that I love MSX as it is, and I just miss the capabilities I have mentioned. But I understand that there is no way for a such computer to be a commercial success nowadays.

And by the way, I agree that we really need a real C compiler, not the 1985 museum items we have now.

Peace and obsolescence.

By DarQ

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07-01-2003, 11:48

are you really against a multi tasking OS nestor? very hard for me to believe that. But hey, i seems that you are also aware that your options are very hard to have a commercial succes.

By Maggoo

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07-01-2003, 12:32

I guess it depends what you want to do with your system. If you want to play games, run demos, you don't need a multitasking OS for this. Heck, you hardly need an OS at all Smile

By DarQ

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07-01-2003, 12:36

indeed maggoo. but is that all we want? I want full internet access and play an mp3 at the same time. Sure, this doesnt need a Multi tasking OS but it makes programming apps like that a lot easier.

For games and demos, the MSX should be able to switch back to hardware programming mode (or something like that).

By konamiman

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07-01-2003, 13:06

are you really against a multi tasking OS nestor? very hard for me to believe that.

I like to program my MSX because it is very easy, even in assembler. Multitasking would innecessarily add things to worry about and sincerely, I think we do not need it.

But hey, i seems that you are also aware that your options are very hard to have a commercial succes.

Well, I just tell my own version of the mentioned "MSX spirit" Smile

By ro

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07-01-2003, 13:48

I'm with konamiman here....

If I would like to surf the net AND hear my fave MP3 AND burn a CD at the same time, I'd stick the PC I allready have within handreach...

If I would like to do these same things NOT having windows, I'd install a version of Linux instead...

If I would like to code some MSX asm, or anything like that, I would hook up my MSX-turbo R again...

If I would feel good, I'd rather play guiter at this moment while smokin' good saffies and have another drink... (not even mention some great sex)...

And what if I would have the idea of having a system which would only be supported within a certain party, I'd dig up (again) my MSX, Atari of even ... (sorry) my Amiga.

But than again, what's the point?

I loved the MSX scene during the 80ties and 90ties, but I too have become a PC user. Why?.. why is that?

Am I selling out? Am I NOT hardcore? Does it make me a looser? you tell me...

(well, okay, I guess you should call me a looser anyway but heck)

Right, so eurhm... what if there would be some kind of new MSX, I wouldn't, probably, even consider pulling cash for this *new* machine.... again, why is that uh!?

No, my dear friends, the MSX saga is likely to be outdated... with the turn of the century, MSX certainly died with it....

It's good for memories, IMO (and good ones they are!)

ro

(so, can any one tell me why the fuck I'm checking MSX sites more often lately??)

By DarQ

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07-01-2003, 14:05

well roman, perhaps you are a little bit curious like me. That would explain why I visit this site again. Since the restyle (and the new news), i am again a frequent visitor.

But hey, creating a new commercial MSX cannot (IMHO) be a success if it was only based upon the ancient MSX standard.

Konamiman is right, it would never be a real MSX computer because the old standard is simpyl not sufficient for the commercial community.

I still think that an OS should be created that offers both multi tasking AND hardware programming. Not at the same time ofcourse <!>

What other possibility would anyone of u havE?

By Hydragon

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07-01-2003, 14:11

Mark wrote :

< Since the restyle (and the new news), i am again a frequent visitor.>

End Mark...

Ok, but you must realize Mark..

The old one was better (for me)...

On this new site you've to search all the time about what's new..

For example check the news the M-Gear2 music of J-War.. !!7 January!!

And what do ya see at the top of the page : !!4 January !!

That's how I think about this.. Shocked!

Greetz,

Koetje MSX

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