NES and Famicom support for the One-Chip-MSX!

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By wolf_

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14-07-2005, 16:39

hence: RetroPod ^_^

Was on TV today .. last year or quarter (dunno, prolly year), Apple made 33% of their profits from the iPod .. I'd say that makes 'Pod' in a name a smart move Smile

By anonymous

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14-07-2005, 17:27

Great! That could be indeed the solution to 1CM. If it supports NES, it will sell more than 5000 units, that's for sure. It would for sure make OCM much more valuable to customers if it comes preloaded with NES and MSX software... The problem is , what MSXA thinks about that ? Will they support Kevin's work? Snout ? :-)

By Jagasian

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14-07-2005, 17:53

I am a NES fanatic, but Kevin is a fan of several 8-bit gaming systems. He is semi-famous in the retro gaming community for his game "kevtris" and for his cool retro-game hardware hacks. His goals for his FPGA console were not just NES/Famicom support, but he also wanted to add support for the Atari 2600 and other 8-bit systems. Anybody that knows Kevin and his previous work know that this guy isn't talk. He is a hardware genius, capable of reverse engineering practically any piece of gaming hardware and accurately recreating it from scratch. But the biggest thing holding him back is the same thing holding the MSX community back: manufacturing costs. Without enough pre-orders, a universal FPGA based console can't be produced.

This is why it is so important that we convince Kevin and ASCII to join forces!

From the look of both platforms, the One-Chip-NES is almost identical to the One-Chip-MSX. 99% of the development on the One-Chip-NES is completed, so if ASCII, MSXA, or Bazix want to INSTANTLY broaden the appeal of their FPGA platform and greatly increase the number of pre-orders, they should strongly consider contacting Kevin so that they can start talking and hopefully eventually send him a prototype to do the porting. If they did that, then they could immediately announce that the One-Chip-MSX will also be a One-Chip-NES (or to the Japanese market a One-Chip-Famicom). Again, it is not up to me, but I am confident that Kevin/ASCII partnership on this project would greatly improve its chances of success.

Do MSXA, ASCII, or Bazix representatives read these forums? Please comment if you can. In my opinion, this is a do or die deal.

By Latok

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14-07-2005, 18:01

No worries, Jagasian, they're reading alright Smile

By wolf_

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14-07-2005, 18:54

Jagasian:

One can't just spread/sell a NES .. you need the rights to do so ..

By Latok

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14-07-2005, 19:30

Of course, but that 'little problem' doesn't have to influence the success of the product Tongue

By anonymous

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14-07-2005, 19:59

Well, no one is selling a NES. MSXA is selling a generic FPGA hardware that would be able to run NES games with Kevin's VHDL code. :-) As long as he didn't use any proprietary information or software (like BIOS) to achieve his goal of running NES software, I don't see a problem. Isn't the same thing about commercial emulators we saw some years ago with Sony and Bleem ?

By timofonic

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14-07-2005, 20:19

It could be nice if the FPGA will can be upgradeable: instead of soldering it into the board, do a very complete bus connector for it with all needed even for a future and A LOT BIGGER FPGA. By example: a bigger FPGA for future MSX2+ and MSX Turbo R (with music module, moonsound...), SNES and GENESIS, even big 16bit stuff (neogeo, x68000, Amiga 500...). Very good for today, even better for tomorrow! Imagine a good upgradeable FPGA platform at good money price! A lot more people will buy it Smile

If you want good selling, think at this, if the platform is really VERY GOOD, people will do FPGA homebrew and the product will sell a lot more thanks to the community!

By dhau

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14-07-2005, 20:19

I'd be glad to pay 50 bucks for such upgrade

By timofonic

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14-07-2005, 20:24

1. The NES patent is expired, NES clones actually are 100% legal.

2. About still patented stuff: you sell a product, people do free stuff for it. Emulation without profit is legal in USA, all kinds of emulations are legal on Europe. Software patents aren't available on europe but on USA they are (hello DMCA)... You download the core from the (insert the name of the product here) community with a nice forum and FPGA programmers doing stuff/learning...

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