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By rderooy

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14-02-2020, 13:07

mars2000you wrote:
rderooy wrote:

@Mars2000you. Your acting like a small child. Nobody gets to touch your toys or you have a tantrum.

Do you think other enjoy it when they add stuff and you just delete everything? Grow up!

Or should the wiki be renamed to " Mars2000you's Wiki" and made read-only for all others? Perhaps that way you can he happy.

Then stop to ignore Nyyrikki remarks about 2.4x versions and PATH ...... I wanted to check that before re-adding the DOS 2 commands. Too difficult to understand, I guess?

Well, in my view PATH is a type of command. It returns the current path with no parameters, and can be used to set a path. Otherwise you could say the same for a command like BUFFERS.

And I don't think version 2.4x was ever officially released by ASCII. The last version was 2.31 to my knowledge. Anything after that would be Nextor, which in my opinion should be clearly marked as such. Also putting the versions to 2.20 is also not correct if you want to be pedantic, since version 2.1 was technically released.

By rderooy

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14-02-2020, 22:23

I have been looking at the original system disks that were supplied with the various Japanese and European computers and disk drives, at least as far as I could find them. And various old publications (ads and reviews). I did not include the Brazilian systems, as those are hacked releases.

The oldest MSX-DOS I found was supplied with the National CF-3300 with msxdos.sys 1.00 and command.com 1.07
The second oldest was the Spectravideo SVI-707 with msxdos.sys 1.01 and command.com 1.07

After this everything else I found was msxdos.sys 1.03 and command.com 1.11. I confirmed this for:
- National FS-4600F, FS-4700, FS-5000
- Panasonic FS-A1F, FS-A1WX, FS-A1WSX
- Philips NMS-8245, NMS-8250, NMS-8255, NMS-8280, VG-8230, VG-8235
- Sony HB-F700D/F/P, HB-F900
- Spectravideo SVI-738

These once I was able to confirm came with a disk with MSX-DOS, but I could not find the systemdisks online.
- National FS-5500, FS-FD351
- Panasonic FS-A1FM, FS-FD1, FS-FD1A
- Sanyo PHC-70FD/FD2, PHC-77
- Sony HB-F500F/P, HBD-20W, HBD-F1

These do not appear to have shipped with MSX-DOS, but since I could only find limited data on most of these I cannot be sure. I checked old reviews and ads, where available, as none of these had any system disks I could find.
- Canon V-30F, VF-100
- Hitachi MPF-310H
- Victor HC-90, HC-95
- Mitsubishi ML-G30
- Sony HB-F500, HBD-30W
- Sanyo Wavy25F/FD/FK/FS
- Toshiba HX-34, HX-F101
- Yamaha FD-03, FD-05

These I'm pretty sure about did not come with MSX-DOS. Some simply because they pre-date MSX-DOS and others because it stated as much in the magazines or I checked the disks and they did not contain MSX-DOS:
- JVC/Victor HC-FC303 / HC-F303
- Philips VY-0010
- Sony HB-701FD, HB-F1XDJ, F1XV, HBD-50
- Toshiba HX-F100
- Yamaha FD-01

I was a bit surprised about the Sony MSX2+ computers, but the disks I found did not contain MSX-DOS.

If I missed something, please let me know. Also if you know where I can find some of the missing system disks.

By rderooy

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14-02-2020, 22:44

By tfh

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17-02-2020, 11:02

Regarding https://www.msx.org/wiki/Suzo_The_Arcade_Turbo
There is a jumper INSIDE the joystick. Depending on how you set this jumper:

Setting 1: You only have 1 working firebutton and the switch on the bottom will let you switch between the two.
Setting 2: You have 2 working firebuttons and the switch on the bottom will the top/bottom switch

By rderooy

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17-02-2020, 11:24

@tfh: Do you have a picture of this switch?

By tfh

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17-02-2020, 12:15

rderooy wrote:

@tfh: Do you have a picture of this switch?

I didn't, so I just made you one:
https://download.file-hunter.com/Images/Hardware/Suzo%20Arca...
In it's current position you have working separate working firebuttons (button A & button b) and you ca switch these using the switch on the bottom.
In the other position, you only have one working firebutton which you can move up/down with the switch on the bottom.

Please also note that all directions & the bottom fire button are all microswitches. Only the top-button uses a leaf-switch.

By rderooy

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17-02-2020, 23:10

@tfh, I have updated the wiki page. Let me know if I misunderstood anything.

By sd_snatcher

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20-02-2020, 01:00

Why is the R800 programming article listing some multiplication in RED as if they don't work? I remember to have tested MULUB A,A and it worked fine.

By gdx

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20-02-2020, 01:32

Because these instructions are officially not guaranteed to work. (See page 184 of R800 Users Manual)

https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AOv1Q7nfCReov5s&cid=7F...

By tfh

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20-02-2020, 07:45

rderooy wrote:

@tfh, I have updated the wiki page. Let me know if I misunderstood anything.

Hi rderooy, it looks fine... Thanks!

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