Hidden MSX hardware

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By mohai

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07-11-2016, 21:05

Piter Punk wrote:
mohai wrote:

Bootscreen shows MSX BASIC version 5.0
That is weird. Question

Really? I read 3.0 there. Take a look on forum's original image in the link above, the picture can be made bigger (and the text will be more readable)

Well I am not 100% sure, but on the original picture it looks more like a number 5.
Copyright shows year 1992 ! That is strange too.
Maybe Talent got license from Microsoft to build their own MSX computer with some kind of extension or maybe they only put some fake startup messages to make it look like a brand new MSX model.

By rderooy

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08-11-2016, 13:44

What do you guys make of this:
http://www.jauce.com/auction/v476388998
http://kpark.co.kr/3061731

Konami Arcade PCB with SCC chip.
To the left of the SCC chip there is a NEC chip and to the right a Sharp Z80 chip, but other then that the resolution of the images is not high enough for me to distinguish much.

By tfh

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08-11-2016, 13:54

rderooy wrote:

What do you guys make of this:
http://www.jauce.com/auction/v476388998
http://kpark.co.kr/3061731

Konami Arcade PCB with SCC chip.
To the left of the SCC chip there is a NEC chip and to the right a Sharp Z80 chip, but other then that the resolution of the images is not high enough for me to distinguish much.

The Z80 doesn't say much. Konami used those a lot as Sound CPU.

By gdx

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08-11-2016, 14:45

Some sexy arcade games that use LaseDisc seem to use MSX hardware!
For example: The Yakyuu-ken part x (THE・野球拳パートx) use a LD and a MSX cartridge.

http://hobihobi-no-mi.com/auction-item/x456457630.html
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/game/theory/ikasuke/yakyuken.html
https://cho.sexy/modules/pico/the_yakyuuken/real_play.html

Some Japanese guys seem emulate these games on OpenMSX.
https://cho.sexy/modules/pico/the_yakyuuken/emulator.html

By Manuel

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08-11-2016, 22:10

Hey, that looks quite interesting! Would someone be able to find the OGV files for that game?

By Piter Punk

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09-11-2016, 01:25

rderooy wrote:

Konami Arcade PCB with SCC chip.
To the left of the SCC chip there is a NEC chip and to the right a Sharp Z80 chip, but other then that the resolution of the images is not high enough for me to distinguish much.

There isn't many, but there is a few arcade games from Konami that uses the SCC. The Z80 in many arcade boards are for sound control. That looks to be the case. I am waiting for some other arcade PCBs, when they arrive, probably we'll have some news to post Wink

gdx wrote:

Some sexy arcade games that use LaseDisc seem to use MSX hardware!
For example: The Yakyuu-ken part x (THE・野球拳パートx) use a LD and a MSX cartridge.

I have one of these games!

I have a draft post about these machines. AFAIK there was three different models. One that uses the Victor HC-7 with VHD (VHD + cartridge), other that uses Pioneer PX-V60 with Laserdiscs (LD + cartridge) and a rarer model that uses the cartridge and the Laserdisc but the MSX computer inside the cabinet is of an unidentified model.

Tried to buy this damn "unidentified model", but Japanese guys are very addicted to their porn stuff and the machine achieved an obscene price. Let's hope I got better luck on next time.

gdx wrote:

Some Japanese guys seem emulate these games on OpenMSX.
https://cho.sexy/modules/pico/the_yakyuuken/emulator.html

NICE!!! I can't play my game because my LD Player is compatible with the UC-V102 (RS232-C controlled) but not with PX-V60 (and I don't have a PX-V60...)

By Piter Punk

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09-11-2016, 04:28

I know you're waiting for the end of "MSX and Video Production" series, and looks like a good choice for a new post is to write about arcades based in MSX. But today is not the day to any of these posts.

Today you can take a look at Zeal E/PASO Communication Tool. The series will have at least three posts, the first two are already done and I will post during this week. The last (?) one will be write at MSX Jaú.

Hope you enjoy this machine.

By Piter Punk

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10-11-2016, 03:59

And now the second post about Zeal E/PASO Communication Tool. This time you can see a few pictures of the interior of this machine.

Take a good look on VDP, MSX-SYSTEM and the Z80-compatible CPU.

By l_oliveira

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10-11-2016, 15:40

That's a Hitachi HD64180, the same one seen on the high end JVC/Victor MSX2, as turbo mode CPU, no? (edit: seen it mentioned on the article)

It's the original chip which gave origin to the Z180 Zilog sells.

Edit2: Modem chipset manufacturer is Sierra Semiconductor which left the modem business in 1996. Later it changed name to "PMC-Sierra".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMC-Sierra

By Pac

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10-11-2016, 16:11

It sounds like a boosted MSX2+ Smile . The most notable aspect of this is how the MSX architecture was the ideal (and versatile) platform in which several companies decided to base their devices. Again thank you for these interesting articles.

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