Is the disk really in the drive?

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By ckrtech

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30-12-2008, 08:43

This is as far as it goes in, guys...but it doesn't look "in" to me. What do you think?

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By cax

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30-12-2008, 09:08

IMHO after inserting you should hear click, and the eject button should pop out a little.

By SaebaMSX

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30-12-2008, 09:12

I think it must be a little deeper (I am checking with my turboR right now) and will be placed on a lower position (not much though). And as cax says the button should be more than twice out of its actual position.

By ckrtech

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30-12-2008, 09:15

I agree. I heard a bit of a click & the eject button popped out, but it didn't "feel" right & doesn't look right either.

I suppose I should also give a little background. I just replaced the belt on this drive (thanks to Repair-Bas), and I do not have any MSX floppies to test with it yet. I thought I could at least format a disk to 720, however after a spinning noise it stops and says "drive not ready" or something like that. I can hear the spin, but I couldn't hear the typical PC floppy drive noises when a disk is accessed. I thought perhaps I didn't quite have the disk in the drive all the way.

Pretty sure I got everything put together properly, and I don't remember the disks going in any further than that before I opened the unit. Just thought I would run it by you guys and see what's up.

By ckrtech

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30-12-2008, 09:17

hey thanks for checking, SaebaMSX. I wonder if I might have a piece of old belt debris in there. I certainly hope not as I don't want to damage the drive, but I don't have another explanation for it not going down further than that. I am "cheating" though as I put a piece of tape over the non write protect side window of a high density disk...so that could be a problem as well.

By NYYRIKKI

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30-12-2008, 10:23

Try to pull the button out gently. It should move freely. If the drive is not 100% correctly positioned inside the MSX the button may just mechanically not fit out properly. (I remember having similar problems with my A1WX after opening the cover) Did you try if the disk goes in nicely if the cover of the MSX is not in place?

That "peace of tape" trick is not needed on MSX as there is no HD detection built to the drive. This is needed only when you use these disks on PC or other modern computer. Anyway... this should not be the problem.

By konamiman

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30-12-2008, 10:55

I think that you should clean a bit your MSX... Tongue

By SaebaMSX

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30-12-2008, 13:48

Thanks to Ramones I am using PC disk drives in my turboRs so I don't need to think about belts anymore (in fact I had original Matushita belts that konamiman brought from Japan many years ago but I'm afraid I lost them). The modding is not that difficult and is perfect if you have a HD/CF/SD/MMC or other devices which will boot before the disk drive. Else you will need to use a disk inside the disk drive (always) to boot your MSX. Think about it if the belt is not the solution and good luck.

By roadfighter

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30-12-2008, 15:14

Thanks to Ramones I am using PC disk drives in my turboRs so I don't need to think about belts anymore

How did he do the modification to use pc drives in your tubo-r ?
I am trying to do the same for a turbo-r but i don't get them to work.

By SaebaMSX

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30-12-2008, 18:15

I think this was explained several times before, but you can find the information at MSX Info Pages (about installing PC disk drives):

msx.retro8bits.com/msxdrive.html

I am sure that you can find other webs with info about making the mod. Ramones is on vacations so I can't ask him right now.

By rolins

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30-12-2008, 23:14

@ckrtech - I'd take apart the disk drive...must be something in there that's jammed.

@roadfighter - Replacing the disk drive on a Panasonic MSX2+ and TR is very easy. The hard part is finding a PC drive that's compatible like a old Teac drive.

@SaebaMSX - I modded my Panasonic FS-A1FX w/ a PC drive but I also installed a switch to connects pin6(Ready signal on MSX) to either GND or Pin34 (on the PC drive). With that you won't need to leave a disk inside all the time.

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