Where to find Maki-chan files

By sd_snatcher

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02-12-2012, 18:11

The author of the Xee image viewer kindly added support for the Maki-chan (.MAG, .MAX) image files. Now he wants to test the implementation against more files.

Do you know any repositories of MAG files? Do you have any MAG files that are not available on the Net, to contribute?

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By anonymous

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02-12-2012, 19:49

The only .MAG files I've seen came from MSX-MAGAZINE and MSX-FAN. The .MAG extension is supported in the Animecha graphic editor but only Screen 5. In case you don't find an acceptable number of images, you could load any MSX image and later save as .MAG.

By umaiboux

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03-12-2012, 16:05

Some files are there:
http://www.ateliermw.com/cglib/ewakalst0001.html
http://www.ateliermw.com/cglib/ewakalst0101.html
http://www.ateliermw.com/cglib/ewakalst0201.html
http://www.ateliermw.com/cglib/ewakalst0301.html
http://miko3.jp/cg/cg_osy1.html
, and a part of http://www.ateliermw.com/cglib/ .

However, all of these MAG files are probably 16 colors.

MAG is a very old format.
Many MAG files would have been discarded.

Using a converter (for MSX, MS-DOS, or Windows) might be better.

By sd_snatcher

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03-12-2012, 20:40

Thanks for your help, umaiboux! Since most of those sites are in Japanese, it's hard for us westerns to find them using Google.

Quote:

MAG is a very old format.
Many MAG files would have been discarded.

Using a converter (for MSX, MS-DOS, or Windows) might be better.

That's exactly the idea! Smile Once Xee is able to load MAG files, the user will be able to save the image on a more modern image format. And that without having to use the old cumbersome DOS tools currently available on the Net.

There's also the japanese PIC files, which where very common on the X68000 platform. Do you also know sites that offer those PIC files for download?

I mean this PIC file format:
http://www36.tok2.com/home/x68000/software/graphics/pic/pich...
http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4814.0

I also got some files with the ".PI" extension and they're different from the ".PIC" files. Do you know what they are and how to read them? In this case, the file header contains the string "PiMag2Pi XPST".

By umaiboux

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04-12-2012, 16:33

".PI" document:
http://www.jisyo.com/viewer/faq/pi_tech.htm
http://www.jisyo.com/viewer/faq/PITECH.LZH

".PIC" document:
http://www.jisyo.com/viewer/faq/pic_tech.htm
http://www.jisyo.com/viewer/faq/PIC_FMT2.LZH

You can get PIC files here: (two PIC files in "ladymar.lzh")
http://www.ateliermw.com/cglib/uoaw199103.html#NO0143

And some of MSX-FAN disks contains (MAG/PIC/PI) files.
http://www.generation-msx.nl/msxdb/company/303

I was using GV about 10 years ago.
http://www2h.biglobe.ne.jp/~tobita/download.htm
It can open MAG, PIC, PI, and the other major format files.

Or, some Japanese image viewer can use "Susie Plug-in".
http://www.digitalpad.co.jp/~takechin/download.html#spi

viewer for MS-DOS:
MJL (shareware)
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/art/se006144.html
MJL/Lite (free)
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/art/se030596.html

If you need more (MAG/PIC/PI) files for the test, you could use various converters.
To make MAG file on Windows:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se242146.html
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/winnt/art/se142510.html
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se196532.html
To make PIC file on MS-DOS:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/art/se016848.html
To make (MAG/PI) file on MS-DOS:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/art/se002524.html
However, I have not checked the contents of these. Sorry.

By sd_snatcher

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05-12-2012, 06:32

umaiboux, you're fantastic! Thanks!! Big smile

By sd_snatcher

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27-12-2013, 01:01

umaiboux, I hope you're still reading this thread.

I found some files using the Q0, RGB and Q4 extensions. Do you know where I can find the tech document for these formats?

The Japanese Wikipedia has some info on those:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q0
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q4

Also, GV isn't being able to read the .RGB files and many PIC files. Which other windows or OS-X reader can I use for those?

By umaiboux

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27-12-2013, 17:29

Oh, I read this thread for the first time in the last one year Smile

sd_snatcher wrote:

I found some files using the Q0, RGB and Q4 extensions. Do you know where I can find the tech document for these formats?

According to the ja.wikipedia.org, RGB and Q0 are RAW formats. They are uncompressed. 24bit per pixel.
By default, Q0 has 640x400 pixels.
In order to specify the image size, ipr file or fal file is needed. Here is the simple information of them.
http://www.digitalpad.co.jp/~takechin/bbs/article.php?A=1187...
http://www.digitalpad.co.jp/~takechin/bbs/article.php?A=1803...

I could not find the documentation of Q4(XLD).

sd_snatcher wrote:

Also, GV isn't being able to read the .RGB files and many PIC files. Which other windows or OS-X reader can I use for those?

Other programs are...

XnView
http://www.xnview.com/

Grapholic
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se039492.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20010807110905/http://www.ohgoe.c...

ViX
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/win95/art/se083112.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20101221235110/http://www.katch.n...

or, Susie
http://www.digitalpad.co.jp/~takechin/download.html#susie32
with "Susie Plug-in"
http://www.digitalpad.co.jp/~takechin/download.html#spi
http://web.archive.org/web/20011104192348/http://www5.ocn.ne...
http://web.archive.org/web/20010503080057/http://homepage1.n...

However, it is not possible to identify the format from extension only. Different formats may use same extension.
http://www.xnview.com/en/xnview/#formats
http://www.jisyo.com/viewer/list/P.shtml

By sd_snatcher

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28-12-2013, 20:20

Thanks again! I'll have a look at the other tools.

BTW, I've already tried XnView, but it can only load MAG files from the PC98. There's no support for files generated on X68K or MSX.