What made you want MSX instead of C64?

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By erikd

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29-09-2006, 01:03

The Reason?

Machines with Software eXchangeability Wink

Oh but the C64 had that too, even more so than MSX since there were an awful lot more of them LOL! Tongue

By snout

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29-09-2006, 01:07

Actually, after wearing out 2 C64's the choice was between a C128 and an MSX2 (8245), somewhere back in 1986... thoughest choice you can give a 6-year-old boy. It took my dad and the salesman a long time to convince me the MSX would be the right choice...

By Sonic_aka_T

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29-09-2006, 01:27

I didn't know the MSX had a higher profit margin... Tongue

By DamageX

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29-09-2006, 08:02

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. In the '90s I got PCs and internet access and then I learned about cool computers such as MSX and Amiga which I had never seen before (not too common here in the USA.)

By AuroraMSX

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29-09-2006, 09:35

When my parents decided to buy me a computer, I basically had the choice between an MSX2 or an Amiga. IIRC they were in the same price range back then, 1988, and the plain ansd simple reason I chose the MSX2 was twofold:

1 - I did know a couple of people who had an MSX, but no one who had an Amiga
2 - MSX2 was easier to program

My father did bring a C-64 into the house, a couple of years before I finally got my own MSX, but I remember the loooooooooooong tape loading (my MSX2 had an FDD!), having to type weird codes (PRINT "<heart symbol>" to do CLS oO) and POKE and SYS around to get a bit of graphics on screen (hurray for MSX BASIC!) and even more POKEs and stuff just to do PLAY "ABC". Nah, C-64 never was an option, really, although playing Squish-em, Fort Apocalypse and Manic Miner (hi dvik Smile) was real fun.

And we did have an ZX-81, too (Or actually, a Timex 1000), bought in Germany for only DM99 (about 50 euro). That was fun: 1 K of RAM, part of which was allocated for video (dynamically!). A friend sold (or gave) us his old 16K memory upgrade; in which we had to replace some transistor every now and then for th ething to work. In the end some of the memory chips grew bad, which made a couple of address ranges unusable. Makes for very interesting programming Evil

EDIT: <off-topic>
ML programming on a 1K ZX-81:
- write your ML program, on paper
- grab your Z80 book and assemble to byte code, on paper
- grab your ZX-81 manual and translate byte code to ZX-81 characters (non-ASCII, IIRC!)
- write a BASIC program like this

1 REM <insert all them weird characters that make up your program here>
2 ...insert some POKEs here to start the ML program

</off-topic>

By LeoM

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29-09-2006, 09:38

Ehhh... actualy, al my friends owned a C64. So as a little boy I wanted that too. My parents went to the shop, but the salesman convinced them to buy an MSX (Sanyo MPC-100)

THANK YOU, SALESMAN !!!! MSX turned out to be a much "funner" homecomputer!

By Niles

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29-09-2006, 10:37

Here in Europe (at least in Spain) Commodore was not wery-well published. It was a successful in US but overseas Sinclair and Amstrad rules. MSX comes from Japan, as far as US for us, but japaneses do what the US doesn't know to do: sell computers Smile

I did not know Commodore until the Amiga... nor Apple until de McIntosh. In 80's US computer sellers usually cares to sell inside their frontiers.

Anyway now I know both of them, and C64 doesn't have Konami cartridges... so I prefer MSX.

By ro

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29-09-2006, 10:42

My dad's friend owned a ZX81 which was suppa. First time he introduced me to this new technology I was hooked in general. WHOW, computers own! I started coding right away. In that same period my uncle told me he just bought a C64 to play games and invited me to come over and see whaz up. Well, I wasn't that impressed. LOOOOONG loading, boring games. I got back to coding instead (on paper!! since I didn't own a comp myself).
Not long after that another uncle bought an MSX, and after just one visit I found my self looking for books to program on MSX. I like the comp so much better than that c64. Still I didn't own any myself.

Started to hang out at family and friends who had one. But I wanted one for myself. At the time I got enough money the mighty MSX2 was just released and I bought myself a vg8235. Jup that Philips thingy with a single sided drive. I "used" it for about 2 years and moved on to a sony hitbit 700D and later on to MtR.

Some friends owned a c64/atari/amiga. I wasn't all to impressed (well the Amiga was nice, but hell MSX rules) and vica versa Wink

I did some programming on BBC and Spectrum in the meantime but MSX was/is the bomb.

By dexx

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29-09-2006, 14:08

My dad used the msx for work (shop that now called super de boer), so we gotta have one too Tongue
and it was a NMS-8255, i learned from him.. WAIT.. is the led off, remove the disk Tongue ahh the good old days.. i HAD a Turbo-R GT Sad it's dead

By Yukio

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29-09-2006, 18:26


EDIT: <off-topic>
ML programming on a 1K ZX-81:
- write your ML program, on paper
- grab your Z80 book and assemble to byte code, on paper
- grab your ZX-81 manual and translate byte code to ZX-81 characters (non-ASCII, IIRC!)
- write a BASIC program like this

1 REM <insert all them weird characters that make up your program here>
2 ...insert some POKEs here to start the ML program

</off-topic>

You could do it on MSX-BASIC too ...
Add some USR stuff!!!
Tongue

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