what to do with my MSX

By MicBert75@yahoo.com

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12-11-2015, 09:49

Hello all!
I own a Fenner SPC-800, since when I was just a boy, which works perfectly, despite of all the dust it got along the years! Unfortunately I do not have a working tape player any more, and that's the only storing device I have ever worked with.
Thus I was wondering what can I do with such an historical jewel! I could develop programs (just for fun) in basic, and I would really like to develop something in assembly (I already know Z80 assembly quite well, but I never applied my knoweldge to MXSX programming). But if I can't save my work in a permanent storage, there's no point.
I would be so happy, also if I managed to recover my game collection, in some way.

Do you have any suggestion?

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By Daemos

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12-11-2015, 11:39

Get the megaflashrom SCC+ SD and all your troubles will be over Wink No more playing around with tapes and floppys pure microSD juice infinite storage space.

take a look at www.msxcartridgeshop.com

By RetroTechie

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12-11-2015, 16:10

Welcome to MSX.org, MicBert! Big smile

Another option: develop using an emulator, assemble/store Z80 sources etc there, output to .wav, and load that into your MSX via the tape input. Cheap, reliable (once you've gotten it to work), some speed-loading options may be available, and you can use the power+tools from a PC for creating software.

But an SD card reader is definitely the more comfortable option. Especially if it includes extra RAM and/or an SCC.

Btw no conflict between these options, can be used side-by-side. Smile

By NYYRIKKI

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12-11-2015, 17:57

Yes indeed the tape does not need to be a tape as long as it stores audio in good enough quality. MiniDisc etc. are just fine as well. The most common replacement is indeed PC + some music player. For only playing games something like Android phone it quite handy option for tape replacement. If you use music recording software to record wav-files from MSX, they can be used in OpenMSX emulator directly.

Getting custom software to run requires that you first put your compiled software to CAS-cassette image and then convert that image to audio with CAS2WAV or similar. For developers I also recommend putting some money in and getting some more handy way of transferring files... Unfortunately NoWind is no longer available as new, so SD card reader is maybe best option. Testing your own software with openMSX emulator is anyway already very reliable way of testing today, so I don't expect that you need to test on real hardware more than few times anyway.

By AxelStone

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13-11-2015, 22:35

Daemos wrote:

Get the megaflashrom SCC+ SD and all your troubles will be over Wink No more playing around with tapes and floppys pure microSD juice infinite storage space.

take a look at www.msxcartridgeshop.com

+1. Get yours and enjoy this fantastic system ;)

By sd_snatcher

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14-11-2015, 15:01

Tip: The Fenner SPC-800 has only 64KB of RAM, so you'll need the megaflashrom SCC+ SD model with integrated 512KB memory expansion.

Since it's an MSX1, it won't run the default file manager that comes with it (called MM). You'll just have to switch to SofaRun instead. Very easy to do.

By Buleste

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15-11-2015, 12:03

If you wave access to an android device you can use MSX2CAS or Tapdancer to load CAS and ROM files by plugging it in to the tape leads. Alternatively if you still love the idea of tapes and fancy a DIY project you could always try my Arduitape project. http://arduitapemarkii.blogspot.co.uk/

By ARTRAG

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26-09-2016, 14:56

Michele buy cartridges, drop cassettes

[Sorry for necroposting, I didn't see the date Tongue ]

By MicBert75@yahoo.com

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12-10-2016, 11:37

Update!
I installed openmsx on several devices (PC, tablet), and I am enjoying them a lot.
For the moment I emulate a Sony HB-501P (the only one I was able to find needed ROM images), but the idea is to dump the rom from my SPC-800, and emulate exactly that one, even if they appear quite similar.
I played some games, recalling far memories LOL!
I wrote some simple program, and saved them to emulated tapes (wav files). Next steps will be to prepare a cable to connect the physical computer to a phone jack, in order to load from wav files, and possibly save on wav files.
Then I look for smarter solution to load/save data from my MSX, and transfer them to/from emulators.
Finally I would like to switch to Z80 assembly, but at a first glance I haven't found any cross assembler for msx, yet.