What does it take to get developing again

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By sunrise

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17-07-2003, 21:26

>>support EACHOTHER so that you can even have a girlfriend , a job and remain your fun and pleasure to create something<<
Was this supposed to refer to the on-topic part of the off-topic part? Smile

Well the off-topic part refers to all kind of excuses for not doing it and bring under the notice still that they are that good to make music or programming otherwise.

By Latok

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17-07-2003, 21:42

Me having a girlfriend never kept me from continuing my hobby, actually. Does that say something about me, my girl or our relationship? Tongue

By snout

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17-07-2003, 22:06

I'm sorry, I felt I had to delete some posts since we were getting VERY off-topic and not to mention personal.

Latok: I think it says something about you, your girl and your relation. Wink

Back on-topic now:

Like Sunrise stated there were already several developments thank to combined efforts, some of which took place on the MRC forums (20th anniversary demo, Meridian going OPL4, ...). I think a projects module MIGHT increase this activity even more, because it allows people to form new groups of developers. Of course, we never know if we don't try.

About filling the upcoming knowledgebase with development-related topics. Frankly, I don't think any of the MRC admins/webmasters apart from BiFi knows enough about development to create it. However, I will get back on the knowledgebase later in a seperate topic because we might have a nice solution for this one.

By anonymous

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17-07-2003, 22:18

About filling the upcoming knowledgebase with development-related topics. Frankly, I don't think any of the MRC admins/webmasters apart from BiFi knows enough about development to create it. However, I will get back on the knowledgebase later in a seperate topic because we might have a nice solution for this one.There's already the MAP, more programming information will be added to MSX Banzai! and ofcourse there's the mainly dutch oriented MiLC, I don't know if ANOTHER source for programming information would be needed.

By snout

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17-07-2003, 22:24

I know, and that's part of the solution. Because despite the fact there are other sites that cover the information a lot better than we could ever do, a lot of (most) people come look for it over here. As for developments a simple question could be answered with a short summary and a link to a site like the MAP, Banzai, etc. where a full explanation with more details can be found. Benefits? People find the information they are looking for more easily and sites like the abovementioned get more visitors which could lead to an increase of activity on those sites as well. Sounds like a win-win situation to me Wink But enough about the Knowledgebase... lets get back to discuss ways to increase the activity of people developing MSX software Wink

By FiXato

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17-07-2003, 22:51

I think things like the MSXDev Contest are good initiatives as well.
Some people need a reward they can focus on Big smile

So, what is basically needed to develop products:

-Inspiration & Ideas -> not really an issue most of the times... Ideas enough, just ask around
-Time -> can be tough
-Enthousiasm
-Encouragement -> Hearing that the project looks good is always a good boost for the developers.
-No Copying -> If the devs know that people just gonna copy the products they make, then they might not feel like finishing or starting
-An offset-market -> Devs want to be sure that there will be a place where they can sell the product and know that it will be bought
-Teamwork -> what is better than doing it yourself and working your ass off? right, having someone that can help you
-Support -> yup, a place where they can find emotional, technical and inspirational support

thats my 2 cents for now...

By MrRudi

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18-07-2003, 00:02

I would like to add something to the list msxpress mentioned above, something I see a lot at hobby projects on GameSkool: organisation. If you work with a team (and on MSX in these times the chances of remote teammembers is big), most hobby projects lack organisation. At any time someone from the team could loose enthusiasm for two days, neglect the work he should do for it, which demotivates the others in the team. Some organisation there is always helpful, it doesn't have to be like a company, but name someone that can communicate well to handle that kind of stuff, to keep the spirits up and to make sure everybody knows everything that is going on.

Ok this reply isn't very usefull for the actual topic starter, since you can't list this in a database, but I still felt is was worth while mentioning. People that wanted to start developing again but ran into a problem like I sketched above, will think twice before starting again in another team.

By snout

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18-07-2003, 00:07

Well, I think it's possible to assign a 'project manager' in the database just fine Smile

By MrRudi

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18-07-2003, 00:11

Well, I think it's possible to assign a 'project manager' in the database just fine Smile

Doh! Of course Smile I meant: it's not that functional, since someone looking to work on an MSX project will probably not search the database for 'project management'! or?

By snout

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18-07-2003, 00:17

No, but like Wolf pointed out several times before: Every project benefits from a project manager. In this case, one of the 'normal' developers and/or the person with the idea for a project can be called 'project manager'. Some sort of extra status.

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