The best music tracker for MSX

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By ro

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16-01-2003, 12:49

hmm, nice specs... but urhm, wasn't Oracle equiped with that already?

it's just a shame I never got to finish it really, not even a descent public driver. Althought mucho channels and settings are cool (as proven in orc), it slows the machine down radically. Unless, here we go again, you got plenty mem and above all a TURBO R.

but uh, quite frankly, I'm curious about your RealFun (whaz inna name) tracker..

It's always a pleasure seeing ppl getting trackers done, for real fun. If it's fun, it must be real.. fun equels coolness.

ro

ps. you can quess I am a bit bored at my job, so filling up this forum is the least fun in reallity right now.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (109)

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16-01-2003, 13:29

And I will redesign my own assembler anyway. (Saw some nice idea's in tniASM Smile )

A typical case of reinventing the wheel Tongue

If you can tell me what features you are missing in tniASM, I can implement them and you can use tniASM in stead of programming your own. Seriously, because I've been wanting to program a tracker for a few years already, but an assembler became a necessity (because TASM sucked).

So maybe we can agree you make the tracker and I make the assembler ;p

That way you have more time to work on RealFun(2) and I don't have to make a tracker Smile

And about what Latok said, making programs public is generally a good idea Smile

By ro

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16-01-2003, 14:37

I wonder, anyone using WBASS assembler, still??

to me, and saffie ofcourse, one of them best assembler around. Really, genious coding!

By Grauw

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16-01-2003, 19:14

WBASS has a serious code size problem, if the code gets too big it won't assemble anymore. Aside from that, it was indeed a nice assembler, although Compass is like 10 times as cool ^_^.

~Grauw

By wolf_

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16-01-2003, 19:15

Would you believe that I actually have an original of wb-ASS 2 ?

By sjoerd

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16-01-2003, 21:51

Snout, you're right. I just might add some more bugs Smile

I started with Realfun around 1995 for no reason at all really. I only had a music module and was quite happy with Soundtracker. (It was a sort of a 'I can do that'-feeling, I guess). But in 1997 (1998) my brother bought a MoonSound. And well, I didn't like Moonblaster (being vertical, stupid block commands, not handling X-event the way it should,...), so the decision to make Realfun for MoonSound was an easy one. Although version 0.99 exist, everyone I know is using Realfun 0.97. (Yes, there are some people (I guess about 6 Big smile ) who have various versions.)

The main problem with making Realfun public are the bugs ( Evil ) and the fact all instruments are ripped off of soundtracker and moonblaster. (Btw, there are a LOT fm voices in moonblaster exactly the same as in soundtracker, I even thought of removing them to save some space by not listing them twice...)

Realfun is as fast as Moonblaster or Soundtracker. All the channels and effects don't slow the z80 down that much (I am pretty sure the replayer is faster than Moonblaster). It needs at least 256KB RAM, and with 256KB there is 112KB free for 112 tracks. Btw, I have a NMS8250 with 1MB, so more than that will never be needed for Realfun (or Realfun2) Tongue

Realfun2 will be very different than Realfun, or any tracker on msx. LOL! (Hehe, Realfun2 should 'outfeature' Meridian! :evilSmile

ro: Oracle doesn't support MoonSound, Realfun supports MoonSound only.

GuyveR800: I am now using SjASM v0.2. And redesigning SjASM is more like making another wheel. Smile And I like reinventing wheels, just like you. Hoever I am missing a listfile and macro's in tniASM. And I like to use ld a,(ix) instead of ld a,[ix]. Wink

And I have never used WBASS. On msx I used zas, the assembler that came with hitechc, I think. On pc I used TASM3.x and I am using SjASM for over a year now (and instead of ignoring bugs and programming around them, I really should remove them.)

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (109)

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16-01-2003, 22:32

I am now using SjASM v0.2. And redesigning SjASM is more like making another wheel. And I like reinventing wheels, just like you. Hoever I am missing a listfile and macro's in tniASM. And I like to use ld a,(ix) instead of ld a,[ix].

The new tniASM in development for a while (I've been using it for a long time already) supports macro's and also allows () in stead of [].

Listfile is something I never found really useful (only for spotting assembler bugs, Wink ), but generating one should not be a huge problem in the new tniASM.

Happy coding! Smile

By wolf_

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16-01-2003, 22:52

What about street-organs? Smile

(what's the english word for 'ponskaart' ?)

And what about that PSG music program for msx1, with that drummer on top of the screen? (on 30 mxs hits), that's a vertical tracker Smile

By anonymous

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16-01-2003, 23:33

Yeah, the one with Bolero from Ravel as demosong! Fantastic Smile

By Arjan

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16-01-2003, 23:45

Listfile is something I never found really useful (only for spotting assembler bugs, Wink ), but generating one should not be a huge problem in the new tniASM.

hmmm a listfile might be useful to find errors in nested conditionally assembled code...forgetting #endif is disastrous, and finding the error takes too long if you haven't touched the code for some time.

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