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Por jltursan

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07-11-2007, 18:41

Impressive!; but can you explain some code highlights like "FORW=0TO0:W=PLAY(0):NEXTW", I guess that it's role must be to keep the music playing; but I'm not totally sure...Question

Por NYYRIKKI

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07-11-2007, 18:46

That routine is used to wait untill it's time to start the race.

Por Manuel

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07-11-2007, 23:15

It's really reallly really amazing... I wonder what would have happened if someone put this for publication in a paper MSX magazine in 1984 or 1985... E.g. in MSX Computer Magazine, "Kort & Krachtig" (short and powerful).

And why didn't they make this in those days? I think nothing prevented them from doing so...

Por wolf_

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07-11-2007, 23:18

How old is the concept of obfuscated code anyway? I mean deliberately making things messy, not code that looks alien by itself.

Por AuroraMSX

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07-11-2007, 23:34

It's really reallly really amazing... I wonder what would have happened if someone put this for publication in a paper MSX magazine in 1984 or 1985... E.g. in MSX Computer Magazine, "Kort & Krachtig" (short and powerful).Well, you just need to find a properly rigged deLorean and off you go Tongue
And why didn't they make this in those days? I think nothing prevented them from doing so...because no one was crazy enough to put effort in a listing like this I guess Hannibal

Por NYYRIKKI

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08-11-2007, 01:10

It's really reallly really amazing... I wonder what would have happened if someone put this for publication in a paper MSX magazine in 1984 or 1985... E.g. in MSX Computer Magazine, "Kort & Krachtig" (short and powerful).

And why didn't they make this in those days? I think nothing prevented them from doing so...
Now that I think about it... 20 years ago I was proud if I was able to consentrate enough to make 5 lines long BASIC program... At that time each line had one command.

Now 20 years later it takes two persons to write 8 lines of BASIC... what can I say. LOL! Actually IIRC our first common BASIC project with Dvik was "Dorkanoid" for MSX1 that was extremely simple "Arcanoid clone" done in one line of BASIC... this was already 10 years ago.

Too bad I've not heard about new ASCII MSX-Magazines coming out. I remember that some years ago they were searching little BASIC programs to be printed to magazine for "educational purposes"... how ever I'm not really sure how educational program this is. Tongue

@wolf: Obfuscation is not the main point in this program anymore. This is just well space optimized that is at least in theory a different thing. Smile How ever this optimization causes obfuscated code. Smile

Por dvik

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08-11-2007, 04:07

The 1st International Obfuscated C Code Contest was held in 1984. I think that was the first contest for obfuscated code.

Por wolf_

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08-11-2007, 12:07

hmm may I suggest to skip the idea to make this game an obfuscation entry, and just expand it with more -similar- lines? Imagine the possibilities with 20 lines for a moment... Tongue

Por NYYRIKKI

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08-11-2007, 13:38

@wolf With 20 lines we should be able to use rendered graphics. Tongue No, using 20 lines is really not such a good idea. As you may have already noticed size optimized code is not same as speed optimized code. This is already getting quite slow. With different way of coding speed could be improved much. Also we have only 2 one letter variables anymore, so adding new features would take more space than before because of longer variables.

Por wolf_

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08-11-2007, 15:05

If you're up for a new challenge: in one of the MCCM's there was a Tetris in 4 lines of BASIC. Iirc it was a complete Tetris, no fancy colors or so, but all the standard blocks fully supported. Can you beat that? Tongue

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