PlaySoniq announced

* Sega 315-5246 Audio/Video chip (found in latest Sega Master System II game consoles)
Does this mean that PlaySoniq now has both Sega PSG + Sega FM included? I just know that later SMS models had FM chip.

* MOS Technology 6581 or 8580 Sound Interface Device (SID), also found in the Commodore 64/128.

* SCC/SCC-I (in FPGA) + 512KB Konami mapper, compatible with romload, loadrom and others
* PSG to SCC redirecting in FPGA hardware, software switchable
What this means? Is it really "Now you can play ANY psg song and hear it played in SCC" I guess not. I guess this is mainly for demo/game makers or play just few old psg songs in SCC?

* Real-time Joystick, Keyboard and OPLL to MSX remapping when in Sega Master System mode.
To make it possible to use joysticks and keyboard on MSX (without any slowdown in joy/key reading) while playing some SMS game on MSX?

* Software switch for VDP addresses: MSX1 Mirror mode, SEGA (Franky) or Colecovision mode
Is it now possible to play ALL Colecovision games on MSX? Mission emulator gives chance to play many Coleco games but not all....

* Total of 13 extra sound-channels, SID filter controllable
So, is there MSX-BASIC extension for programming SID from MSX-BASIC without any machine code knowledge?

AND, is there MSX-BASIC extension for programming BOTH PSGs (MSX´s PSG and Sega´s PSG) from MSX-BASIC to PLAY SIX PSG CHANNELS AT SAME TIME without any machine code knowledge?

We’ll do our utmost best to keep the final sale price between a Moonsound and a OPL4 shockwave ;-)
So what are the current prices of Moonsound and OPL4 shockwave

Like a Nowind, you mean? Or something else?

We need space shuttle cards for MSX, as whole space shuttle program is soon gonna be closed after almost thirty years.

Hmm... that sentence didn´t make much sense... maybe I was dreaming using such MSX space shuttle card for flying into space and getting much money from companies by carrying their stuff into space. Or something like that...

@MäSäXi: FM support for MSX-Music or external FM-PAC. There's no internal OPLL on this card. In theory someone could program the FPGA for this. All PSG output can be redirected, there's no if's. We don't program basic extensions (as told before). Hopefully some developers will ;-) Coleco games will benefit from VDP addressing and compatible soundchip on this card. There's no out of the box support. It's a Franky on Colecovision atm ;-) However, smart FPGA programming could change this.
For the keyboard remapping and such: the monitoring/remapping speed is adjustable. Most games work like a charm with the defaut settings.
@Konamiman: don't be a weenie. You also only program/make what you think is fun. Don't blame others for doing the same.
@Pitpan: Thanks! This FPGA is pretty much crammed, but it's up to the VHDL programmer to optimise things or cannibalize features to get more space for new projects.

Sander, I know somebody else must do the BASIC extensions. I was wishing that after BASIC extensions would be ready, they would be added into this Playsoniq cartridge. So there would be no need for loading such things from disk. I am afraiding, that in worst case, I´ll buy playsoniq, but nobody will never program BASIC extensions to use Sega PSG and SID straight from MSX-BASIC, simple way.

Sorry, but there´s something I didn´t understood though from your answer. Can we play Colecovision´s game .ROM files on MSX already (by inserting playsoniq and loading Coleco´s game roms from disk) or is there something which prevents this yet?

Konamiman: I prefer this "too much in one cart" than... "I need more slots and space". Now with 3 slots (I have a 2 slot minislotexpander made by UsuarioMSX2) in my 8245 I am not able to do the same I can do with the 1chipMSX, for example.

I really like the fact that software already exists for this extension: wise VDP choice allowing MSX1 games just to be visualy improved, a whole SEGA software universe to be used/developped on MSX, existing PSG musics played as SCC(i), MSX music filtered with SID (isn't it?), SID music now accessable... Just plug it and run better and more.
Standard wise: MSX meets SEGA and Commodore... SEGA's VDP being an alternative evolution to MSX1's, welcome colours/scrolling/sprites this way!
Ok, it may not fullfill some people's expectations concerning mass storage or network (USB, flash cards...), but such an amount of memory, RAM and konami mapped flashable ROM, giving MSX from 1st generation real facilities: provided you have a mass storage solution, I can't find anything to complain about. Very well done!
Now it depends on what "affordable" means to everyone...

@spl: Me too. I'm not complaining about having many features in one cart; quite the opposite, I love the idea. But I think that one of the features on one of these multi-featured cards (I speak generically, not necessarily about the PlaySoniq card) should be an USB port. I had the hope that if I cry strong enough, maybe someone will make it.

Will there be a day, when *I* can program SID or Sega PSG straight from BASIC?
The SID is just as easy to use from MSX-BASIC than it is from C64 BASIC.

I was hoping something like maybe a bit simplified version of our familiar music macro language... So are you making this BASIC extension for SID, wolf? Or did you just mean, that it´s quite a big job to do?

What I think MaSaXi means (tell me if I'm wrong, buddy), is just be able to do something like,

10 _MUSIC (1,0,2,2,2) (<-- just assuming a way to call SID here, same for #3)
20 PLAY #3, "T50 V15 L4 O4 CDEC CDEC EFG2 EFG2"
30 PLAY #3,"L8 GAGFE4C4 GAGFE4C4 L4 CGC2 CGC2"

...only probably a bit more sophisticated work than "Frère Jacques", with possibly more than one channel, even.

(BTW if you'd really wanna test - make it _MUSIC (1,0,1,1,1) and replace PLAY#3 with PLAY#2. Ofcourse you'll have the FM-PAC present and working, because you'll go to hell if you do not if you insist on PSG, just delete line 10 and remove the "#3," at both lines - don't forget removing the comma)

Anyway, sure, it can be fun to play with, but I'd almost bet my balls that no-one wants to do a composition in any way attaining Daglish or Benn-like work in this (MML/BASIC/MuSiCa) way.
You want to? Try!
You'll end up in the same hall of fame like the guy who did the Manbow cover (amongst other songs BTW).
Yes, the professional guys got payed for it - let's see how much you like to do it when it's just for fun.

I have never seen, applied in any BASIC language, the arpeggios - do you know what I mean? (called 'ornaments' in VT II), you know, the trick to indicate, or at least suggest harmony/intervals/chords which decides a major deal of the overall sound in ZX-Spectrum/Commodore 64 sounds or their MSX PSG conversions.
'Western' chiptunes, generally.
Actually, I do not think it is easy in (MSX-)BASIC, since you have to 'hang' it on the skeleton of the tempo at that time. Try calculating that stuff in BASIC!
You'll probably have to depend on software written in a more efficient language; even more so - being able to handle things on interrupt frequency and cycles/second.

Oh well, as the Japanese monks have shown us - it's possible to define user FM synthesis (SW/@63) voices in BASIC; usually in DATA lines -
pitchbends too, noise envelopes for PSG too, but, heck.. it's sooooo much work.

I suppose a program like MuSiCa can easily be adapted to send data to the SID.

Anyway, if you like (the sound of) the SID chip and wanna fiddle with it in BASIC, it's probably fun to play with it in this way.
I couldn't tell ya, actually I like most MSX PSG versions over the original C64 SID versions more, I'm sorry.

Controlling the SID fully from BASIC would be even more insane-locked-up-monk work than it usually would be with controlling PSG / FM-PAC alone.
Commands from an interface like BASIC have to be re-directed to (a) certain chip(s) and vice versa.
After all, SID has no 'voice' presets even to start from, has it? Only 4 waveforms and 3 audio oscillators (with dedicated volume control) and some additional filter options built-in, IIRC.

The SID is a sort of a wildcard; no guarantees given regarding general sound standard;
it's a noise/vibrance generator with some extras to influence frequency & envelope and some other parameters which make your ears bleed from different angles according to set variable, and actual output sound depends on how much abuse the plastic casing of your C64 can take before the glue starts to melt and your stuff implodes all together.
I kid, I kid (a bit, but partly it adheres to the point I want to make).

Anyway, a clear, musically efficient and user-friendly tracker should be not too much of a big deal to program for some coders with some notion on how music - and frequencies - work.
I still dream of a combined effort resulting from Sergei Bulba, [WYZ] and wolf_;
Those guys know what's it about, both musically and code-wise, and still I have the feeling I'm even forgetting some people.

All jokes which I made aside - let's see what the MSX cpu can pull, together with a demo or a game, and then assisted by more sound channels than usuallly.

Let's hope.

P.S. if anyone likes the sound of 6 channels MSX/Sega PSG plus SCC plus FM-PAC plus MSX-Audio plus SID, then - if he isn't in the looney bin yet - I would wage to go control the traffic naked at my main street.

So, even if someone would be able to operate SID parameters in BASIC using some kinda extended MML (kinda like the extra MML codes we get with the FM-PAC), we'd not be able to get everything out of the chip.

Yes, I understand that. So what? I can´t get everything out of PSG chip either with MML. And still MML had given me many enjoyable moments. (and very frustrating ones too... of course, but it´s mostly because of PSG´s restrictions in my case)

From that point of view I doubt the importance of BASIC MML for SID.

It would have been funny to hear those words from some japanese MSX exec in 1982, telling there´s no sense to make MML for MSX-BASIC since you would not be able to get everything out of the PSG!

TRY to imagine 1980s MSX world WITHOUT MML! (it´s a very sad world...)

It would be smarter to make a normal tool (like Vortex Tracker, Moonblaster or whatever you like) and make a BASIC replayer for such tunes.

Yes, it´s a very good idea! But it´s only for those who can use trackers though.

What I am pointing at is, it would be nice that both tracker using musicians and MSX-BASIC users could have possibility to make SID songs!!!

To me it´s really important to have a way to make SID music on MSX, the way it would have been in 1983, if such SID-MSX cartridge would have been existing in the old days. If the japanese had made such SID-MSX cartridge, I think that they could have used something similar MSX-BASIC extension as MML. Cannot think japanese making SID-MSX cartridge and giving MSX-BASIC extension which only gives you control by using ONLY odd POKEs.

This is already possible look for swisid at http://www.swinkels.tvtom.pl/swinsid/
Only it is cpld regarding to the atmel(s) used