Any MSX computer capable of running certain games--

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Por mje

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26-05-2004, 22:37

OK...

Can anybody here help me out with the Japanese MSX2+? I mean, does anybody here have one they'd be willing to sell, etc?

Por doba

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26-05-2004, 23:04

Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 do not use any new features in MSX2+ that are not present in MSX2. And usually MSX2+ is at least two (more like three) times more expensive.

Panasonic MSX2+ and TurboR systems are notorious for the complexity of floppy drive repair. In Sony computers all you have to do is find XT compartible 3.5" floppy drive and replace defective. In Panasonic systems you need soldering skills or money to buy compatible drive (from Ikeda for example).

MSX2+ comes with 9958 VDP. The only two games I know about that use 9958 specific enhancements are Space Manbow and Super Laydock 2. Those use smooth v+h scroll feature, which is not available in 9938 (MSX2).

It is possible that fan-made games (i.e. eurotrash '92-'04) use 9958, but I doubt they will be of any interest to anyone but most hardcore MSX geeks.

Recently I sold a japanese MSX2 system to a guy in NY (I'm in Canada, hence cheaper shipping costs). I still have three spare MSX2 systems (2 x Sony jap NTSC and 1 x Philips euro PAL).

If you want more info, ask, may be we'll strike a deal.

PS: aside of big hits like Metal Gear 1/2 and Vampire Killer, and lesser known but still well recognized titles like King's Valley and Knightmare, I strongly recomend an incredibly addictive and fun game "Breaker" (c) 1987 RadarSoft (great german MSX software company). It's disk based, and it works fine on any MSX2 with 64K RAM. Try plaing it with a friend using two MSX mouses! Unforgettable Smile

Por Manuel

Ascended (17947)

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26-05-2004, 23:16

ehm, Radarsoft is not German, it's Dutch!

Por Sonic_aka_T

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26-05-2004, 23:20

I say MSX2+ because they are simply easier to come by. Since it's not likely you'll find a Japanese seller that is able to understand you and willing to ship internationally the 'best' alternative is often to buy the machine in Europe. In Europe there are no Japanese MSX2 machines. Hence the suggestion of a Japanese MSX2+. Drive repair is really not that much of an issue if you're mainly going to play MG and MG2 on ROM.

Por doba

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26-05-2004, 23:25

Lol, what NTSC-J machines do you own? And where did you got this idea that there's more MSX2+ systems then MSX2?

BTW: all eBay sellers who ship internationally can communicate in (somewhat broken but still quite intelligent) english...

Por mje

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27-05-2004, 10:44

If you want more info, ask, may be we'll strike a deal.

You mean you could sell me one? In that case, YES, let's talk! And the games are equally important, too. Help with that would be good.

Por Grauw

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27-05-2004, 10:53

mje, if you buy an MSX2+ system from Europe, be sure to inquire if it still has the original power supply unit. Mine hasn't for example, it's got one which can handle 230V. It would save you a load of trouble...

About the games: eBay is really the best place to find them. You probably need to wait a bit for one to get auctioned, because they're not sold very frequently. Metal Gear 1 is by the way much cheaper and easier to get by than Metal Gear 2, because it was sold for a much longer time and earlier in the MSX history, and thus is not very rare. Also, a European version was made of Metal Gear 1 (with English text, although it probably runs in PAL mode). To play Metal Gear 2 in English, you'd have to get the translated disk version.

~Grauw

Por pitpan

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27-05-2004, 12:03

If you don't care very much about "originals" then I suggest you the following:

-Get an MSX2 with FDD in eBay. For example, Philips NMS8245 MSX2, about 45 euros
-Get an original Konami SCC cartridge. Don't care about the title. About 20 euros
-Send it to the MegaFlashSCC boys: they will convert it. About 60 euros.

With that staff you would be able to play ALL konami games in cartridge format, in english, japanese of what-so-ever.

Final price: about 120 euros. That is the price of the original SOLID SNAKE - METAL GEAR II for MSX. You should decide!

Por mje

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27-05-2004, 18:31

To be honest, the issue of it being original is kind of the point of me doing this. I'm a collector of sorts, and Metal Gear is one of my favorite series... soooo...

Finding those games is very tough.

Oh, and I could deal with the English translated Solid Snake. I don't care that much. But I'm just saying Japanese is OK.

Por doba

Resident (39)

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27-05-2004, 19:09

Mind you, there is no original Konami english Solid Snake. It's an incredibly cool translation hack.

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